From: Michal Hocko <mhocko-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton
<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
Roman Gushchin
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm: memcg: use non-unified stats flushing for userspace reads
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 09:33:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZOW2PZN8Sgqq6uR2@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tka13M-zVZTyQJYL1iUAYvuQ1fcHbCjcOBZcz6POYTV-4g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Tue 22-08-23 08:30:05, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 2:06 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon 21-08-23 20:54:58, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
[...]
> So to answer your question, I don't think a random user can really
> affect the system in a significant way by constantly flushing. In
> fact, in the test script (which I am now attaching, in case you're
> interested), there are hundreds of threads that are reading stats of
> different cgroups every 1s, and I don't see any negative effects on
> in-kernel flushers in this case (reclaimers).
I suspect you have missed my point. Maybe I am just misunderstanding
the code but it seems to me that the lock dropping inside
cgroup_rstat_flush_locked effectivelly allows unbounded number of
contenders which is really dangerous when it is triggerable from the
userspace. The number of spinners at a moment is always bound by the
number CPUs but depending on timing many potential spinners might be
cond_rescheded and the worst time latency to complete can be really
high. Makes more sense?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-23 7:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-21 20:54 [PATCH 0/3] memcg: non-unified flushing for userspace stats Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-21 20:54 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: memcg: properly name and document unified stats flushing Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-21 20:54 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: memcg: add a helper for non-unified " Yosry Ahmed
[not found] ` <20230821205458.1764662-3-yosryahmed-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-22 13:01 ` Michal Koutný
2023-08-22 16:00 ` Yosry Ahmed
[not found] ` <CAJD7tkaVuiMU-ifJiyH5d_W1hi9DnAymYJxzBxEKCVX+tU=OCA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-22 16:35 ` Michal Koutný
2023-08-22 16:48 ` Yosry Ahmed
[not found] ` <20230821205458.1764662-1-yosryahmed-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-21 20:54 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: memcg: use non-unified stats flushing for userspace reads Yosry Ahmed
[not found] ` <20230821205458.1764662-4-yosryahmed-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-22 9:06 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <ZOR6eyYfJYlxdMet-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-22 15:30 ` Yosry Ahmed
[not found] ` <CAJD7tka13M-zVZTyQJYL1iUAYvuQ1fcHbCjcOBZcz6POYTV-4g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-23 7:33 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2023-08-23 14:55 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-24 7:13 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-24 18:15 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-24 18:50 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-25 7:05 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-25 15:14 ` Yosry Ahmed
[not found] ` <CAJD7tkYPyb+2zOKqctQw-vhuwYRg85e6v2Y44xWJofHZ+F+YQw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-25 18:17 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-25 18:21 ` Yosry Ahmed
[not found] ` <CAJD7tka=60_vPMY9Tg8tH+55g-feV1B24VNmDpp_3iMHqrUh7Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-25 18:43 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <ZOj2NeU5yYhrTZPJ-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-25 18:44 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-28 15:47 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-28 16:15 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-28 17:00 ` Shakeel Butt
[not found] ` <CALvZod7uxDd3Lrd3VwTTC-SDvqhdj2Ly-dYVswO=TBM=XTnkcg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-28 17:07 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-28 17:27 ` Waiman Long
2023-08-28 17:28 ` Yosry Ahmed
[not found] ` <CAJD7tkZsGfYXkWM5aa67v3JytTO04LS7_x+ooMDK82cBZ-C8eQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-28 17:35 ` Waiman Long
[not found] ` <307cbcf6-dca2-0b5d-93e8-11368a931d2f-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-28 17:43 ` Waiman Long
2023-08-28 18:35 ` Yosry Ahmed
[not found] ` <599b167c-deaf-4b92-aa8b-5767b8608483-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-29 7:27 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <ZO2d7dT8gulMyb8g-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-29 15:05 ` Waiman Long
2023-08-29 15:17 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <ZO4MBNzsbhsi7adb-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-29 16:04 ` Yosry Ahmed
[not found] ` <ZOhSyvDxAyYUJ45i-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-29 18:44 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <ZO48h7c9qwQxEPPA-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-29 19:13 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-29 19:36 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <ZO5IuULSCXMe9_pN-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-29 19:54 ` Yosry Ahmed
[not found] ` <CAJD7tkYtnhemCLBqFqOVurfWEaCjKtyEM745JYRxFS0r5cpZwQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-29 20:12 ` Tejun Heo
2023-08-29 20:20 ` Yosry Ahmed
[not found] ` <CAJD7tkZn_7ppFB1B1V8tBEw12LXCnEOue2Beq6e19PkUAVHUSQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-31 9:05 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-22 13:00 ` [PATCH 0/3] memcg: non-unified flushing for userspace stats Michal Koutný
2023-08-22 15:43 ` Yosry Ahmed
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