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From: Roman Gushchin To: Shakeel Butt Cc: Yosry Ahmed , Matthew Wilcox , Andrew Morton , Johannes Weiner , Michal Hocko , Muchun Song , cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: memcg: remove direct use of __memcg_kmem_uncharge_page Message-ID: References: <20231213202325.2cq3hwpycsvxcote@google.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: cgroups@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 02:12:35PM -0800, Shakeel Butt wrote: > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 2:05 PM Yosry Ahmed wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 12:58 PM Shakeel Butt wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 12:41 PM Shakeel Butt wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 12:27 PM Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 08:23:25PM +0000, Shakeel Butt wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 08:31:00AM -0800, Yosry Ahmed wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 8:27 AM Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 08:24:04AM -0800, Yosry Ahmed wrote: > > > > > > > > > I doubt an extra compound_head() will matter in that path, but if you > > > > > > > > > feel strongly about it that's okay. It's a nice cleanup that's all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't even understand why you think it's a nice cleanup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > free_pages_prepare() is directly calling __memcg_kmem_uncharge_page() > > > > > > > instead of memcg_kmem_uncharge_page(), and open-coding checks that > > > > > > > already exist in both of them to avoid the unnecessary function call > > > > > > > if possible. I think this should be the job of > > > > > > > memcg_kmem_uncharge_page(), but it's currently missing the > > > > > > > PageMemcgKmem() check (which is in __memcg_kmem_uncharge_page()). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I think moving that check to the wrapper allows > > > > > > > free_pages_prepare() to call memcg_kmem_uncharge_page() and without > > > > > > > worrying about those memcg-specific checks. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a (performance) reason these open coded check are present in > > > > > > page_alloc.c and that is very clear for __memcg_kmem_charge_page() but > > > > > > not so much for __memcg_kmem_uncharge_page(). So, for uncharge path, > > > > > > this seems ok. Now to resolve Willy's concern for the fork() path, I > > > > > > think we can open code the checks there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Willy, any concern with that approach? > > > > > > > > > > The justification for this change is insufficient. Or really any change > > > > > in this area. It's fine the way it is. "The check is done twice" is > > > > > really weak, when the check is so cheap (much cheaper than calling > > > > > compound_head!) > > > > > > > > I think that is what Yosry is trying i.e. reducing two calls to > > > > page_folio() to one in the page free path. > > > > > > Actually no, there will still be two calls to page_folio() even after > > > Yosry's change. One for PageMemcgKmem() and second in > > > __memcg_kmem_uncharge_page(). > > > > > > I think I agree with Willy that this patch is actually adding one more > > > page_folio() call to the fork code path. > > > > It is adding one more page_folio(), yes, but to the process exit path. > > > > > > > > Maybe we just need to remove PageMemcgKmem() check in the > > > free_pages_prepare() and that's all. > > > > You mean call memcg_kmem_charge_page() directly in > > free_pages_prepare() without the PageMemcgKmem()? I think we can do > > that. My understanding is that this is not the case today because we > > want to avoid the function call if !PageMemcgKmem(). Do you believe > > the cost of the function call is negligible? > > The compiler can potentially inline that function but on the other > hand we will do twice reads of page->compound_head due to READ_ONCE(). > > We don't have data to support one option or the other. Unless we can > show perf difference between the two, I think doing nothing (leave it > as is) will be the better use of our time. +1, especially given how controversial the change is.