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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>
To: Hao Jia <jiahao.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, tj@kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	 shakeel.butt@linux.dev, mhocko@kernel.org, mkoutny@suse.com,
	nphamcs@gmail.com,  chengming.zhou@linux.dev,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	 cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Hao Jia <jiahao1@lixiang.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm/zswap: Make shrink_worker writeback cursor per-memcg
Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 01:24:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aho7nepN5jZtKmef@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260526114601.67041-2-jiahao.kernel@gmail.com>

On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 07:45:58PM +0800, Hao Jia wrote:
> From: Hao Jia <jiahao1@lixiang.com>
> 
> The zswap background writeback worker shrink_worker() uses a global
> cursor zswap_next_shrink, protected by zswap_shrink_lock, to round-robin
> across the online memcgs under root_mem_cgroup.
> 
> Proactive writeback also wants a similar per-memcg cursor that is
> scoped to the specified memcg, so that repeated invocations against
> the same memcg make forward progress across its descendant memcgs
> instead of restarting from the first child memcg each time.

Is this a problem in practice?

Is the concern the overhead of scanning memcgs repeatedly, or lack of
fairness? I wonder if we should just do writeback in batches from all
memcgs, similar to how reclaim does it, then evaluate at the end if we
need to start over?

> 
> Naturally, group the cursor and its protecting spinlock into a
> zswap_wb_iter struct, and make it a member of struct mem_cgroup to
> realize per-memcg cursor management. Accordingly, shrink_worker() now
> uses the lock and cursor in root_mem_cgroup->zswap_wb_iter.

If we really need to have per-memcg cursors (I am not a big fan), I
think we can minimize the overhead by making the cursor updates use
atomic cmpxchg instead of having a per-memcg lock.

> 
> Because the cursor is now per-memcg, the offline cleanup must visit
> every ancestor that could be holding a reference to the dying memcg.
> Factor out __zswap_memcg_offline_cleanup() and walk from dead_memcg up
> to the root.

Another reason why I don't like per-memcg cursors. There is too much
complexity and I wonder if it's warranted. If we stick with per-memcg
cursors please do the refactoring in separate patches to make the
patches easier to review.

Thanks!


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-30  1:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-26 11:45 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/zswap: Implement per-cgroup proactive writeback Hao Jia
2026-05-26 11:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm/zswap: Make shrink_worker writeback cursor per-memcg Hao Jia
2026-05-29 19:51   ` Nhat Pham
2026-05-30  1:24   ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2026-05-26 11:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm/zswap: Implement proactive writeback Hao Jia
2026-05-29 19:58   ` Nhat Pham
2026-05-30  1:40     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-05-30  1:37   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-05-26 11:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm/zswap: Add per-memcg stat for " Hao Jia
2026-05-29 20:01   ` Nhat Pham
     [not found] ` <20260526114601.67041-5-jiahao.kernel@gmail.com>
2026-05-29 20:02   ` [PATCH v3 4/4] selftests/cgroup: Add tests for zswap " Nhat Pham

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