From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Audra Mitchell <audra@redhat.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
david@kernel.org, jocolema@redhat.com, raquini@redhat.com,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix unbounded loop within try_charge_memcg
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2026 10:28:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <anYUNIKwXnTIx0fl@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <anX8VgySSw5OR_Sb@fedora>
On Fri, Aug 07, 2026 at 11:40:06AM -0400, Audra Mitchell wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 07, 2026 at 10:06:53AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 06-08-26 11:10:03, Audra Mitchell wrote:
> > > Originally nr_retries was actually nr_oom_retries and we used it to track (and
> > > limit) the number of times we entered the mem_cgroup_oom path and then attempted
> > > a retry. The purpose of nr_retries counter changed with the introduction of
> > > 9b1306192d33 ("mm: memcontrol: retry reclaim for oom-disabled and __GFP_NOFAIL
> > > charges") so that the oom-disabled and __GFP_NOFAIL charges would also continue
> > > to retry within the desired nr_retries threshold. Later d977aa939fca
> > > ("mm, memcg: unify reclaim retry limits with page allocator") changed the
> > > nr_retries counter from 5 to 16.
> > >
> > > As the function has evolved we now have multiple paths that have a goto retry
> > > path and we have lost the original purpose of the nr_retries counter, allowing
> > > us to take a goto retry path an unbounded number of times.
> > >
> > > Fix the unbounded retries by nesting the code in a loop and decrementing the
> > > nr_retries counter correctly.
> >
> > Are you trying to fix a theoretical problem spotted by the code review
> > or is there any actual problem that you are trying to fix?
>
> We have had some customer complaints that performance has slowed to a crawl when
> the cgroup memory limit has come close to the maximum limit. In those cases, we
> have noticed that each process is spending a large amount of time in the direct
> reclaim path acquiring just enough memory for their specific allocation, thus
> by-passing the oom condition yet degrading the system's overall performance.
> In the global case, direct reclaim is bounded by DEF_PRIORITY, however, a cgroup
> will go through the try_charge_memcg path which will call
> try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages->do_try_to_free_pages each time it does a retry (16
> times). If we bound the loop in try_charge_memcg, the worst case is 16*12 passes
> attempting to reclaim. This patch is meant to address the unbound case, limiting
> the loops to 16 attempts at following the direct reclaim path. An argument could
> be made to reduce nr_retries as well, but given that the nr_retries has been set
> to 16 for sometime, it seemed unlikely such a change would be considered.
>
Generally we keep the kernel oom-killer very conservative and let the userspace
system-oomd react and trigger the kill (unless there is an obvious bug and/or does
not require to add one more heuristic in the reclaim+oom path).
Anyways was systemd-oomd and psi enabled on the user system?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-07 17:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20260806151004.1825320-1-audra@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <anWSHc04JJBJ1VbS@tiehlicka>
2026-08-07 15:40 ` [PATCH] Fix unbounded loop within try_charge_memcg Audra Mitchell
2026-08-07 17:28 ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2026-08-07 18:47 ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-07 19:10 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-08-07 19:13 ` Audra Mitchell
2026-08-07 20:07 ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-06 18:24 Audra Mitchell
2026-08-07 9:17 ` Michal Hocko
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