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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
	Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Youngjun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>,
	Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>, Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>, Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/12] mm, swap: unify large folio allocation
Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 17:15:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c72ead41-0bb3-4da0-856c-315dc552c722@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMgjq7DegMz2ZEHOhHkAqDEWDuCSZ7Ktsxw1ibDY8axFzRRGnQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/11/26 16:37, Kairui Song wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2026 at 8:58 PM David Hildenbrand (Arm)
> <david@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 4/21/26 08:16, Kairui Song via B4 Relay wrote:
>>> From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
>>>
>>> Now that direct large order allocation is supported in the swap cache,
>>> both anon and shmem can use it instead of implementing their own methods.
>>> This unifies the fallback and swap cache check, which also reduces the
>>> TOCTOU race window of swap cache state: previously, high order swapin
>>> required checking swap cache states first, then allocating and falling
>>> back separately. Now all these steps happen in the same compact loop.
>>>
>>> Order fallback and statistics are also unified, callers just need to
>>> check and pass the acceptable order bitmask.
>>>
>>> There is basically no behavior change. This only makes things more
>>> unified and prepares for later commits. Cgroup and zero map checks can
>>> also be moved into the compact loop, further reducing race windows and
>>> redundancy
>>>
>>
>> You should spell out the rename from swapin_folio() to swapin_entry() [and why
>> it is done].
>>
>> swapin_readahead() vs. swapin_entry() looks a bit odd, fiven that both consume
>> an entry.
> 
> Yes, the current status is a bit odd, about two years ago I also
> wanted to name it `swapin_direct()`.
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20240326185032.72159-3-ryncsn@gmail.com/
> 
> But actually ZRAM or shmem would also benefit from supporting unified
> readahead like this:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20240102175338.62012-6-ryncsn@gmail.com/
> 
> So calling it `swapin_entry` seems more future-proof. At some point in
> the future we might remove `swapin_readahead`. All swapin operations
> could have a unified or at least a per-device readahead policy like
> the one in the link above, instead of the current policy where the
> caller must decide whether to perform readahead.
> 
> But any suggestion on naming is welcome :)

The other proposal

	https://lore.kernel.org/all/tencent_CD11FE9B4A0B362E95E776C5F679598FAA07@qq.com/

calls it

	swapin_synchronous_folio

Maybe just swapin_sync_io()/swapin_sync() or sth like that?


-- 
Cheers,

David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-11 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-21  6:16 [PATCH v3 00/12] mm, swap: swap table phase IV: unify allocation and reduce static metadata Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-21  6:16 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] mm, swap: simplify swap cache allocation helper Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-05-06 13:51   ` Chris Li
2026-05-11  8:57     ` Kairui Song
2026-04-21  6:16 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] mm, swap: move common swap cache operations into standalone helpers Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-05-06 14:42   ` Chris Li
2026-04-21  6:16 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] mm/huge_memory: move THP gfp limit helper into header Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-21 13:08   ` Zi Yan
2026-04-21 17:21     ` Kairui Song
2026-04-21 17:23       ` Zi Yan
2026-05-12  9:02         ` Baolin Wang
2026-05-06 14:46   ` Chris Li
2026-04-21  6:16 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] mm, swap: add support for stable large allocation in swap cache directly Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-05-06 20:27   ` Chris Li
2026-05-12  9:48   ` Baolin Wang
2026-05-12  9:55     ` Kairui Song
2026-04-21  6:16 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] mm, swap: unify large folio allocation Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-05-06 20:48   ` Chris Li
2026-05-11 12:57   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-11 14:37     ` Kairui Song
2026-05-11 15:15       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-05-11 16:44         ` Kairui Song
2026-05-12  6:07           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-12 10:10   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-21  6:16 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] mm/memcg, swap: tidy up cgroup v1 memsw swap helpers Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-05-06 20:57   ` Chris Li
2026-04-21  6:16 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] mm, swap: support flexible batch freeing of slots in different memcgs Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-05-08  4:01   ` Chris Li
2026-04-21  6:16 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] mm, swap: delay and unify memcg lookup and charging for swapin Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-05-08  4:46   ` Chris Li
2026-04-21  6:16 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] mm, swap: consolidate cluster allocation helpers Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-05-08  5:02   ` Chris Li
2026-04-21  6:16 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] mm/memcg, swap: store cgroup id in cluster table directly Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-05-08 22:46   ` Chris Li
2026-04-21  6:16 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] mm/memcg: remove no longer used swap cgroup array Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-05-08 22:47   ` Chris Li
2026-04-21  6:16 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] mm, swap: merge zeromap into swap table Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-05-11 16:30   ` Chris Li
2026-04-24 18:11 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] mm, swap: swap table phase IV: unify allocation and reduce static metadata Kairui Song
2026-05-11 21:12   ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-12  5:10     ` Kairui Song
2026-05-11 16:34 ` Chris Li

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