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From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: "Mehta, Sohil" <sohil.mehta@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 09/18] x86/sgx: Store struct sgx_encl when allocating new VA pages
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 06:49:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d49edf96a0ed2a4bcbf2c7f192c89b800c6791c5.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <op.2cbqf0nkwjvjmi@hhuan26-mobl.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Wed, 2023-10-04 at 23:22 -0500, Haitao Huang wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Oct 2023 16:13:41 -0500, Huang, Kai <kai.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2023-10-04 at 10:03 -0500, Haitao Huang wrote:
> > > On Tue, 03 Oct 2023 15:07:42 -0500, Huang, Kai <kai.huang@intel.com>  
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2023-10-03 at 01:45 -0500, Haitao Huang wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Btw, probably a dumb question:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Theoretically if you only need to find a victim enclave you don't  
> > > need
> > > > > > to put VA
> > > > > > pages to the unreclaimable list, because those VA pages will be  
> > > freed
> > > > > > anyway
> > > > > > when enclave is killed.  So keeping VA pages in the list is for>
> > > > > accounting all
> > > > > > the pages that the cgroup is having?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes basically tracking them in cgroups as they are allocated.
> > > > > 
> > > > > VAs and SECS may also come and go as swapping/unswapping happens.  
> > > But
> > > > > if acgroup is OOM, and all reclaimables are gone (swapped out), it'd
> > > > > have toreclaim VAs/SECs in the same cgroup starting from the front  
> > > of
> > > > > the LRUlist. To reclaim a VA/SECS, it identifies the enclave from  
> > > the
> > > > > owner ofthe VA/SECS page and kills it, as killing enclave is the  
> > > only
> > > > > way toreclaim VA/SECS pages.
> > > > 
> > > > To kill enclave you just need to track SECS in  the unreclaimable  
> > > list.
> > > > Only when you want to account the total EPC pages via some list you
> > > > _probably_
> > > > need to track VA as well.  But I am not quite sure about this either.
> > > 
> > > There is a case where even SECS is paged out for an enclave with all
> > > reclaimables out.
> > 
> > Yes.  But this essentially means these enclaves are not active, thus  
> > shouldn't
> > be the victim of OOM?
> > 
> 
> But there are VA pages for the enclave at that moment. So it can be  
> candidate for OOM victim.

Yes.  I am not familiar with how does OOM choose victim, but it seems choosing
inactive enclaves seems more reasonable.


[...]

> > > There were some discussion on paging out VAs without killing enclaves  
> > > but
> > > it'd be complicated and not implemented yet.
> > 
> > No we don't involve swapping VA pages now.  It's a separate topic.
> > 
> Only mentioned it as a kind of constraints impacting current design.
> 
> Another potential alternative: we don't reclaim SECS either until OOM and  
> only track SECS pages for cgroups. But that would change current behavior.  
> And I'm not sure about other consequences, e.g., enclaves theoretically  
> can allocate pages (including VA pages) in different cgroups/processes, so  
> we may still end up tracking all VA pages for cgroups or we track SECS  
> page in all cgroups in which enclave allocated any pages. Let me know your  
> thoughts.

Let's not change current behaviour.  I seriously doubt that is needed.

So it seems to me that what we need is just some way to let the OOM find some
victim enclave.  I am not sure whether "tracking EPC pages in some lists" has
anything to do with cgroup accounting EPC pages, so will take a look the rest of
the patches.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-05 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-23  3:06 [PATCH v5 00/18] Add Cgroup support for SGX EPC memory Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 03/18] x86/sgx: Add sgx_epc_lru_lists to encapsulate LRU lists Haitao Huang
     [not found] ` <20230923030657.16148-1-haitao.huang-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 01/18] cgroup/misc: Add per resource callbacks for CSS events Haitao Huang
     [not found]     ` <20230923030657.16148-2-haitao.huang-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-09-25 17:09       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-25 17:09         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-26  3:04         ` Haitao Huang
     [not found]           ` <op.2buytfetwjvjmi-yDQzE4XY+yVaPPhiJ6yCxLKMmGWinSIL2HeeBUIffwg@public.gmane.org>
2023-09-26 13:10             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-26 13:10               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-26 13:13               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-26 13:13                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-27  1:56                 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-02 22:47                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-10-02 22:55                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-10-04 15:45                       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-04 17:18                         ` Tejun Heo
2023-09-27  9:20     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03 14:29       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17 18:55     ` Michal Koutný
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 02/18] cgroup/misc: Add SGX EPC resource type and export APIs for SGX driver Haitao Huang
     [not found]     ` <20230923030657.16148-3-haitao.huang-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-09-25 18:50       ` Tejun Heo
2023-09-25 18:50         ` Tejun Heo
2023-09-28  3:59     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  7:00       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 19:33         ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 04/18] x86/sgx: Use sgx_epc_lru_lists for existing active page list Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 05/18] x86/sgx: Store reclaimable EPC pages in sgx_epc_lru_lists Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 10:14     ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 06/18] x86/sgx: Introduce EPC page states Haitao Huang
     [not found]     ` <20230923030657.16148-7-haitao.huang-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-09-25 17:11       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-25 17:11         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-27 10:28     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  4:49       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 20:03         ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-04 15:24           ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-04 21:05             ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 07/18] x86/sgx: Introduce RECLAIM_IN_PROGRESS state Haitao Huang
2023-09-25 17:13     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-25 17:13       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-27 10:42     ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 08/18] x86/sgx: Use a list to track to-be-reclaimed pages Haitao Huang
2023-09-28  9:28     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  5:09       ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 09/18] x86/sgx: Store struct sgx_encl when allocating new VA pages Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 11:14     ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-27 15:35       ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 21:21         ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-29 15:06           ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-02 11:05             ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-27 11:35     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  6:45       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 20:07         ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-04 15:03           ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-04 21:13             ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-05  4:22               ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-05  6:49                 ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 10/18] x86/sgx: Add EPC page flags to identify owner types Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 11/18] x86/sgx: store unreclaimable pages in LRU lists Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 11:57     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  5:42       ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-28  9:41     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  5:15       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 20:12         ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 12/18] x86/sgx: Add EPC OOM path to forcefully reclaim EPC Haitao Huang
2023-10-09 23:45     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  0:23       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-10  0:50         ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  1:34           ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 16:49             ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-11  0:51               ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-12 13:27                 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-16 10:57                   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-16 19:52                     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-16 21:09                       ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-17  0:10                         ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17  1:34                           ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-17 12:58                             ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17 18:54                               ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-17 19:13                                 ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-18  4:39                                   ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-18  4:37                                 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-18 13:55                                   ` Dave Hansen
2023-10-18 15:26                                     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-18 15:37                                       ` Dave Hansen
2023-10-18 15:52                                         ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-18 16:25                                           ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-16 21:32                       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-17  0:09                         ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17 15:43                           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-17 11:49                         ` Mikko Ylinen
2023-10-11  1:14               ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-16 11:02                 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  1:42         ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  2:23           ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 13:26             ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-11  0:01               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-11 15:02                 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  1:04       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  1:18         ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  1:38           ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  2:12             ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 17:05               ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-11  0:31                 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-11 16:04                   ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 13/18] x86/sgx: Expose sgx_reclaim_pages() for use by EPC cgroup Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 12:24     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-05 19:23       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 20:25         ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 14/18] x86/sgx: Add helper to grab pages from an arbitrary EPC LRU Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 15/18] x86/sgx: Prepare for multiple LRUs Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 12:30     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-05 19:33       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 20:38         ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 16/18] x86/sgx: Limit process EPC usage with misc cgroup controller Haitao Huang
     [not found]     ` <20230923030657.16148-17-haitao.huang-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-09-25 17:15       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-25 17:15         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-10-05 21:01     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  0:12     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  0:16     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  0:26     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-22 18:26       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  9:19     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  9:32     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-17 18:54     ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-19 16:05       ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 17/18] Docs/x86/sgx: Add description for cgroup support Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 18/18] selftests/sgx: Add scripts for EPC cgroup testing Haitao Huang

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