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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: "Maarten Lankhorst" <dev@lankhorst.se>,
	"Lucas De Marchi" <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
	"'Thomas Hellström'" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	"Rodrigo Vivi" <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Natalie Vock" <natalie.vock@gmx.de>, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"'Michal Koutný'" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Shakeel Butt" <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	"'Liam R . Howlett'" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
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	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] cgroups: Add support for pinned device memory
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 14:25:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dc21e54c-d7ae-4d7e-9acb-6a3fa573b20f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250819114932.597600-5-dev@lankhorst.se>

On 19.08.25 13:49, Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
> When exporting dma-bufs to other devices, even when it is allowed to use
> move_notify in some drivers, performance will degrade severely when
> eviction happens.
> 
> A perticular example where this can happen is in a multi-card setup,
> where PCI-E peer-to-peer is used to prevent using access to system memory.
> 
> If the buffer is evicted to system memory, not only the evicting GPU wher
> the buffer resided is affected, but it will also stall the GPU that is
> waiting on the buffer.
> 
> It also makes sense for long running jobs not to be preempted by having
> its buffers evicted, so it will make sense to have the ability to pin
> from system memory too.
> 
> This is dependant on patches by Dave Airlie, so it's not part of this
> series yet. But I'm planning on extending pinning to the memory cgroup
> controller in the future to handle this case.
> 
> Implementation details:
> 
> For each cgroup up until the root cgroup, the 'min' limit is checked
> against currently effectively pinned value. If the value will go above
> 'min', the pinning attempt is rejected.
> 
> Pinned memory is handled slightly different and affects calculating
> effective min/low values. Pinned memory is subtracted from both,
> and needs to be added afterwards when calculating.

The term "pinning" is overloaded, and frequently we refer to 
pin_user_pages() and friends.

So I'm wondering if there is an alternative term to describe what you 
want to achieve.

Is it something like "unevictable" ?

-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-01 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-19 11:49 [RFC 0/3] cgroups: Add support for pinned device memory Maarten Lankhorst
2025-08-19 11:49 ` [RFC 1/3] page_counter: Allow for pinning some amount of memory Maarten Lankhorst
2025-08-19 11:49 ` [RFC 2/3] cgroup/dmem: Implement pinning device memory Maarten Lankhorst
2025-08-19 11:49 ` [RFC 3/3] drm/xe: Add DRM_XE_GEM_CREATE_FLAG_PINNED flag and implementation Maarten Lankhorst
2025-08-19 16:22   ` Thomas Hellström
2025-08-21 11:41     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2025-08-26 14:20 ` [RFC 0/3] cgroups: Add support for pinned device memory Michal Koutný
2025-08-28 20:58   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2025-09-01 12:25 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-09-01 18:16   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2025-09-01 18:21     ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-01 18:38       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 13:42         ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-01 12:45 ` Natalie Vock
2025-09-01 14:37   ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-01 18:22   ` Maarten Lankhorst

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