From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: "Maarten Lankhorst" <dev@lankhorst.se>,
"Lucas De Marchi" <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
"'Thomas Hellström'" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
"Rodrigo Vivi" <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
"Natalie Vock" <natalie.vock@gmx.de>, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"'Michal Koutný'" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
"Shakeel Butt" <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
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"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] cgroups: Add support for pinned device memory
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 14:25:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dc21e54c-d7ae-4d7e-9acb-6a3fa573b20f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250819114932.597600-5-dev@lankhorst.se>
On 19.08.25 13:49, Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
> When exporting dma-bufs to other devices, even when it is allowed to use
> move_notify in some drivers, performance will degrade severely when
> eviction happens.
>
> A perticular example where this can happen is in a multi-card setup,
> where PCI-E peer-to-peer is used to prevent using access to system memory.
>
> If the buffer is evicted to system memory, not only the evicting GPU wher
> the buffer resided is affected, but it will also stall the GPU that is
> waiting on the buffer.
>
> It also makes sense for long running jobs not to be preempted by having
> its buffers evicted, so it will make sense to have the ability to pin
> from system memory too.
>
> This is dependant on patches by Dave Airlie, so it's not part of this
> series yet. But I'm planning on extending pinning to the memory cgroup
> controller in the future to handle this case.
>
> Implementation details:
>
> For each cgroup up until the root cgroup, the 'min' limit is checked
> against currently effectively pinned value. If the value will go above
> 'min', the pinning attempt is rejected.
>
> Pinned memory is handled slightly different and affects calculating
> effective min/low values. Pinned memory is subtracted from both,
> and needs to be added afterwards when calculating.
The term "pinning" is overloaded, and frequently we refer to
pin_user_pages() and friends.
So I'm wondering if there is an alternative term to describe what you
want to achieve.
Is it something like "unevictable" ?
--
Cheers
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-01 12:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-19 11:49 [RFC 0/3] cgroups: Add support for pinned device memory Maarten Lankhorst
2025-08-19 11:49 ` [RFC 1/3] page_counter: Allow for pinning some amount of memory Maarten Lankhorst
2025-08-19 11:49 ` [RFC 2/3] cgroup/dmem: Implement pinning device memory Maarten Lankhorst
2025-08-19 11:49 ` [RFC 3/3] drm/xe: Add DRM_XE_GEM_CREATE_FLAG_PINNED flag and implementation Maarten Lankhorst
2025-08-19 16:22 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-08-21 11:41 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2025-08-26 14:20 ` [RFC 0/3] cgroups: Add support for pinned device memory Michal Koutný
2025-08-28 20:58 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2025-09-01 12:25 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-09-01 18:16 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2025-09-01 18:21 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-01 18:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-02 13:42 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-01 12:45 ` Natalie Vock
2025-09-01 14:37 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-01 18:22 ` Maarten Lankhorst
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