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From: wangzicheng <wangzicheng@honor.com>
To: Ridong Chen <ridong.chen@linux.dev>,
	"T.J. Mercier" <tjmercier@google.com>
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Subject: RE: [RFC v2 0/3] mm/mglru: proactive aging via memory.aging
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2026 03:49:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f61e49966c434900b3c244c6bbabb6db@honor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c01c77ed-9ce2-43e6-8ab8-dc2a8fb43b4b@linux.dev>

> On 7/16/2026 1:55 AM, T.J. Mercier wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 5:15 AM Zicheng Wang <wangzicheng@honor.com>
> wrote:
> >> The benefit is workload-dependent: file-cache-bound servers gain from
> >> aging, anon-bound servers do not, so no kernel default is correct for
> >> all.  The kernel also cannot know when to age: on Android the right
> >> moment is the foreground-to-background transition, when the app's
> pages
> >> are cold but their PTE accessed bits are still accurate from foreground
> >> execution, a framework concept.
> >
> > When an app transitions and becomes cached, we attempt to reclaim its
> > entire workingset. We basically cat memory.current > memory.reclaim
> > and freeze the cgroup.
> > https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/+/android-latest-
> release:system/core/libprocessgroup/task_profiles.cpp;drc=65bd7ab941a70
> 9bf049871406981022b988e1721;l=706
> >
> > File / anon balance vs hotness and generational placement doesn't
> > matter in that scenario because we want to get rid of all of it. So I
> > don't really understand how you'd want to use an aging knob.
> >
> 
> When the app becomes the foreground app again, reclaiming all of its
> background memcg memory may increase refault data, which may in turn
> slow down warm-launch performance.
> 
> --
> Best regards
> Ridong
> 

Hi Ridong,

Agreed. That is the motivation for proactive aging: keep the file cache
and shed cold anonymous pages, so there is less to refault on the
next launch and scroll janks. 

Best,
Zicheng


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-16  3:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-14 12:15 [RFC v2 0/3] mm/mglru: proactive aging via memory.aging Zicheng Wang
2026-07-14 12:15 ` [RFC v2 1/3] mm/lru_gen: add AGING counter and proactive aging helper Zicheng Wang
2026-07-14 12:15 ` [RFC v2 2/3] mm: memcontrol: add memory.aging cgroup v2 file Zicheng Wang
2026-07-14 12:15 ` [RFC v2 3/3] mm/lru_gen: expose oldest-generation page counts in memory.stat Zicheng Wang
2026-07-15 14:00 ` [RFC v2 0/3] mm/mglru: proactive aging via memory.aging Johannes Weiner
2026-07-16  6:37   ` wangzicheng
2026-07-15 17:55 ` T.J. Mercier
2026-07-16  2:29   ` Ridong Chen
2026-07-16  3:49     ` wangzicheng [this message]
2026-07-16  3:34   ` wangzicheng

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