From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
Tzung-Bi Shih <tzungbi@kernel.org>,
Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@linaro.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
Benson Leung <bleung@chromium.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
Dawid Niedzwiecki <dawidn@google.com>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
chrome-platform@lists.linux.dev, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] platform/chrome: Fix a possible UAF via revocable
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 16:19:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2025091220-private-verse-d979@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250912135916.GF31682@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>
On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 04:59:16PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 03:46:27PM +0200, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 3:39 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > >
> > > I have no objection moving this to the cdev api, BUT given that 'struct
> > > cdev' is embedded everywhere, I don't think it's going to be a simple
> > > task, but rather have to be done one-driver-at-a-time like the patch in
> > > this series does it.
> >
> > I don't think cdev is the right place for this as user-space keeping a
> > reference to a file-descriptor whose "backend" disappeared is not the
> > only possible problem. We can easily create a use-case of a USB I2C
> > expander being used by some in-kernel consumer and then unplugged.
> > This has nothing to do with the character device. I believe the
> > sub-system level is the right place for this and every driver
> > subsystem would have to integrate it separately, taking its various
> > quirks into account.
>
> That's why I mentioned in-kernel users previously. Drivers routinely
> acquire resources provided by other drivers, and having a way to revoke
> those is needed.
>
> It is a different but related problem compared to userspace racing with
> .remove(). Could we solve both using the same backend concepts ?
> Perhaps, time will tell, and if that works nicely, great. But we still
> have lots of drivers exposing character devices to userspace (usually
> through a subsystem-specific API, drivers that create a cdev manually
> are the minority). That problem is in my opinion more urgent than
> handling the removal of in-kernel resources, because it's more common,
> and is easily triggerable by userspace. The good news is that it should
> also be simpler to solve, we should be able to address the enter/exit
> part entirely in cdev, and limit the changes to drivers in .remove() to
> the strict minimum.
>
> What I'd like to see is if the proposed implementation of revocable
> resources can be used as a building block to fix the cdev issue. If it
> ca, great, let's solve it then. If it can't, that's still fine, it will
> still be useful for in-kernel resources, even if we need a different
> implementation for cdev.
Patch 5/5 in this series does just this for a specific use of a cdev in
the driver. Is that what you are looking for?
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-12 14:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-12 8:17 [PATCH v3 0/5] platform/chrome: Fix a possible UAF via revocable Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 8:17 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] revocable: Revocable resource management Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 9:05 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-13 15:56 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 13:27 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-13 15:56 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-17 5:24 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-22 18:35 ` Simona Vetter
2025-09-12 8:17 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] revocable: Add Kunit test cases Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 8:17 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] selftests: revocable: Add kselftest cases Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 8:17 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] platform/chrome: Protect cros_ec_device lifecycle with revocable Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 8:17 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] platform/chrome: cros_ec_chardev: Consume cros_ec_device via revocable Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 8:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] platform/chrome: Fix a possible UAF " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-12 8:34 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-12 9:20 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-12 9:09 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-09-12 9:24 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2025-09-12 12:49 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 13:26 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-12 13:39 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-12 13:45 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-12 13:46 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2025-09-12 13:59 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-12 14:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2025-09-12 14:26 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-12 14:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-12 14:44 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2025-09-12 14:54 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-12 16:22 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-13 16:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-22 22:43 ` dan.j.williams
2025-09-13 15:55 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-13 16:14 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-23 8:20 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 14:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-22 15:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 15:55 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-22 17:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 18:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-22 20:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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