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From: David Vossel <dvossel@redhat.com>
To: cluster-devel.redhat.com
Subject: [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing	HA Summit 2015
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:46:01 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1770308907.3548355.1416951961151.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EF12A921-0218-47AA-B737-BF05D4DC6F5D@beekhof.net>



----- Original Message -----
> 
> > On 25 Nov 2014, at 8:54 pm, Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On 2014-11-24T16:16:05, "Fabio M. Di Nitto" <fdinitto@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>> Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do
> >>> not wear the fedora ;-)
> >> That would be the perfect opportunity for you to convert users to Suse ;)
> > 
> >>>> I?d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore
> >>>> the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of
> >>>> tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that.
> >>> That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class
> >>> participants and is a PITA for everyone.
> >> I agree, it is still a way for people to join in tho.
> > 
> > I personally disagree. In my experience, one either does a face-to-face
> > meeting, or a virtual one that puts everyone on the same footing.
> > Mixing both works really badly unless the team already knows each
> > other.
> > 
> >>> I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in
> >>> Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in
> >>> Europe etc.
> >> Yes same here. No difference.. we have one crazy guy in Australia..
> > 
> > Yeah, but you're already bringing him for your personal conference.
> > That's a bit different. ;-)
> > 
> > OK, let's switch tracks a bit. What *topics* do we actually have? Can we
> > fill two days? Where would we want to collect them?
> 
> Personally I'm interested in talking about scaling - with pacemaker-remoted
> and/or a new messaging/membership layer.

If we're going to talk about scaling, we should throw in our new docker support
in the same discussion. Docker lends itself well to the "pet vs cattle" analogy.
I see management of docker with pacemaker making quite a bit of sense now that we
have the ability to scale into the "cattle" territory.

> Other design-y topics:
> - SBD
> - degraded mode
> - improved notifications
> - containerisation of services (cgroups, docker, virt)
> - resource-agents (upstream releases, handling of pull requests, testing)

Yep, We definitely need to talk about the resource-agents.

> 
> User-facing topics could include recent features (ie. pacemaker-remoted,
> crm_resource --restart) and common deployment scenarios (eg. NFS) that
> people get wrong.

Adding to the list, it would be a good idea to talk about Deployment
integration testing, what's going on with the phd project and why it's
important regardless if you're interested in what the project functionally
does.

-- Vossel

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-25 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-08 10:30 [Cluster-devel] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015 Fabio M. Di Nitto
2014-09-08 13:30 ` [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] " Digimer
2014-09-09 13:11 ` [Cluster-devel] [Linux-HA] " Alan Robertson
2014-09-09 14:09   ` Fabio M. Di Nitto
2014-09-09 16:31     ` Alan Robertson
2014-09-09 16:36       ` Fabio M. Di Nitto
2014-09-09 17:00         ` [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] " Digimer
2014-09-22 18:25 ` [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] " Digimer
2014-11-01  5:06 ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg] " Fabio M. Di Nitto
2014-11-01  5:19   ` [Cluster-devel] [Linux-HA] " Digimer
2014-11-05 15:16     ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg-technical] " Lars Ellenberg
2014-11-11  8:17       ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg] [ha-wg-technical] [Linux-HA] " Fabio M. Di Nitto
2014-11-24 14:39 ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg] " Lars Marowsky-Bree
2014-11-24 14:54   ` Fabio M. Di Nitto
2014-11-24 15:06     ` [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] " Digimer
2014-11-24 15:12     ` [Cluster-devel] " Lars Marowsky-Bree
2014-11-24 15:14       ` [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] " Digimer
2014-12-01 10:14         ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg] [Pacemaker] " Tim Serong
2014-11-24 15:16       ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg] " Fabio M. Di Nitto
2014-11-25  9:54         ` [Cluster-devel] [Linux-HA] " Lars Marowsky-Bree
2014-11-25 21:31           ` Andrew Beekhof
2014-11-25 21:46             ` David Vossel [this message]
2014-11-26 15:41               ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg] [Pacemaker] [Linux-HA] " Lars Marowsky-Bree
2014-11-26 15:45                 ` Fabio M. Di Nitto
2014-11-26 22:26                 ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg-technical] " Andrew Beekhof
2014-11-27 12:33                   ` [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] [ha-wg-technical] [ha-wg] " Kristoffer Grönlund
2014-11-27 12:55                     ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg-technical] [Pacemaker] " Fabio M. Di Nitto
2014-11-27 12:56                     ` Fabio M. Di Nitto
2014-11-25 23:06             ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg-technical] [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] " Digimer
2014-11-25 23:11               ` Andrew Beekhof
2014-11-26  5:51           ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg] [Linux-HA] " Fabio M. Di Nitto
2014-11-26  5:58             ` Digimer
2014-11-26  6:10             ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg-technical] " Digimer
2014-11-26  6:28             ` Andrew Beekhof
2014-11-26 15:53           ` [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] " Vladislav Bogdanov
     [not found]       ` <fb1c82e0004e484f9be5bfe60462325b@SRV-MAIL-001.zhaw.ch>
2014-11-24 15:37         ` [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] " Vincenzo Pii
2014-11-24 21:31       ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg-technical] " Andrew Beekhof
2014-11-27 16:52 ` [Cluster-devel] Wiki for planning created - Re: [Pacemaker] " Digimer
2014-11-28  5:33   ` Fabio M. Di Nitto
2014-11-28  5:37     ` Digimer
2014-11-28 19:10       ` [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] Wiki for planning created - " Jan Pokorný
2014-11-29  5:45         ` Fabio M. Di Nitto
2014-11-29  5:50           ` Digimer
2014-11-30  5:56   ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg-technical] Wiki for planning created - Re: [Pacemaker] " Digimer
2014-12-08 13:36 ` [Cluster-devel] " Jan Pokorný
2014-12-22  8:35   ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg-technical] " Keisuke MORI
2014-12-22 17:13     ` Digimer
2015-01-14  4:33       ` [Cluster-devel] [Linux-HA] " Yusuke Iida
2015-01-14  4:38         ` [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] [Linux-HA] [ha-wg-technical] " Digimer
2015-01-14  5:51           ` [Cluster-devel] [Linux-HA] [Pacemaker] " Yusuke Iida
2015-01-11 22:19 ` [Cluster-devel] HA Summit 2015 - plan wiki closed for registration Digimer
2015-01-13  5:31 ` [Cluster-devel] [Planning] Organizing HA Summit 2015 Digimer
2015-01-25  6:20   ` [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg] " Fabio M. Di Nitto
2015-01-26 14:14   ` [Cluster-devel] HA Summit Key-signing Party (was: Organizing HA Summit 2015) Jan Pokorný
2015-01-26 14:17     ` [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] HA Summit Key-signing Party Digimer
2015-01-26 14:26     ` [Cluster-devel] " Christine Caulfield
2015-01-27 17:11     ` [Cluster-devel] HA Summit Key-signing Party (was: Organizing HA Summit 2015) Jan Pokorný
2015-02-02 16:48     ` [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] " Jan Pokorný
2015-02-02 17:07       ` [Cluster-devel] [Pacemaker] HA Summit Key-signing Party Digimer
2015-02-03 13:04         ` [Cluster-devel] Call for keys, another round (Was: HA Summit Key-signing Party) Jan Pokorný

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