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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: cluster-devel.redhat.com
Subject: [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 8/8] Revert "ext4: fix wrong gfp type under transaction"
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 09:29:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170118082910.GD7015@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7EC66AC2-1900-4328-A408-65079616A518@dilger.ca>

On Tue 17-01-17 14:04:03, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 04:18:17PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >> 
> >> OK, so I've been staring into the code and AFAIU current->journal_info
> >> can contain my stored information. I could either hijack part of the
> >> word as the ref counting is only consuming low 12b. But that looks too
> >> ugly to live. Or I can allocate some placeholder.
> > 
> > Yeah, I was looking at something similar.  Can you guarantee that the
> > context will only take one or two bits?  (Looks like it only needs one
> > bit ATM, even though at the moment you're storing the whole GFP mask,
> > correct?)
> > 
> >> But before going to play with that I am really wondering whether we need
> >> all this with no journal at all. AFAIU what Jack told me it is the
> >> journal lock(s) which is the biggest problem from the reclaim recursion
> >> point of view. What would cause a deadlock in no journal mode?
> > 
> > We still have the original problem for why we need GFP_NOFS even in
> > ext2.  If we are in a writeback path, and we need to allocate memory,
> > we don't want to recurse back into the file system's writeback path.
> > Certainly not for the same inode, and while we could make it work if
> > the mm was writing back another inode, or another superblock, there
> > are also stack depth considerations that would make this be a bad
> > idea.  So we do need to be able to assert GFP_NOFS even in no journal
> > mode, and for any file system including ext2, for that matter.
> > 
> > Because of the fact that we're going to have to play games with
> > current->journal_info, maybe this is something that I should take
> > responsibility for, and to go through the the ext4 tree after the main
> > patch series go through?  Maybe you could use xfs and ext2 as sample
> > (simple) implementations?
> > 
> > My only ask is that the memalloc nofs context be a well defined N
> > bits, where N < 16, and I'll find some place to put them (probably
> > journal_info).
> 
> I think Dave was suggesting that the NOFS context allow a pointer to
> an arbitrary struct, so that it is possible to dereference this in
> the filesystem itself to determine if the recursion is safe or not.

Yes, but can we start with a simpler approach first? Even this approach
takes quite some time to be used.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs



  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-18  8:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-06 14:10 [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 0/8 v3] scope GFP_NOFS api Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 1/8] lockdep: allow to disable reclaim lockup detection Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 12:56   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 2/8] xfs: abstract PF_FSTRANS to PF_MEMALLOC_NOFS Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 12:59   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-09 14:29     ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 20:58   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 3/8] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save, restore} API Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 13:04   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-09 13:42     ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 13:59       ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 14:04       ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 4/8] xfs: use memalloc_nofs_{save, restore} instead of memalloc_noio* Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 14:08   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-09 14:25     ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 15:56   ` Brian Foster
2017-01-09 20:59   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 5/8] jbd2: mark the transaction context with the scope GFP_NOFS context Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 6/8] jbd2: make the whole kjournald2 kthread NOFS safe Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 7/8] Revert "ext4: avoid deadlocks in the writeback path by using sb_getblk_gfp" Michal Hocko
2017-01-17  3:01   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-01-17  7:54     ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 11:59       ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 8/8] Revert "ext4: fix wrong gfp type under transaction" Michal Hocko
2017-01-17  2:56   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-01-17  8:24     ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-17 15:18       ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-17 15:59         ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-01-17 16:16           ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-17 17:29             ` Jan Kara
2017-01-19  8:39               ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-19  9:22                 ` Jan Kara
2017-01-19  9:44                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-26  7:44                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-27  6:13                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-01-27  9:37                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-27 16:40                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-01-28  7:32                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-28  8:17                               ` David Lang
2017-01-30  8:12                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-03 15:32                               ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-17 21:04           ` Andreas Dilger
2017-01-18  8:29             ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-01-06 14:18 ` [Cluster-devel] [DEBUG PATCH 0/2] debug explicit GFP_NO{FS, IO} usage from the scope context Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 14:18   ` [Cluster-devel] [DEBUG PATCH 1/2] mm, debug: report when GFP_NO{FS, IO} is used explicitly from memalloc_no{fs, io}_{save, restore} context Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 14:18   ` [Cluster-devel] [DEBUG PATCH 2/2] silent warnings which we cannot do anything about Michal Hocko

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