From: Wendy Cheng <wcheng@redhat.com>
To: cluster-devel.redhat.com
Subject: [Cluster-devel] Re: [PATCH 1/2] NLM failover unlock commands
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:06:49 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4798FDE9.4040406@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080124201910.GF26164@fieldses.org>
J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 02:45:37PM -0500, Wendy Cheng wrote:
>
>> J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>>
>>> In practice, it seems that both the unlock_ip and unlock_pathname
>>> methods that revoke locks are going to be called together. The two
>>> separate calls therefore seem a little redundant. The reason we *need*
>>> both is that it's possible that a misconfigured client could grab locks
>>> for a (server ip, export) combination that it isn't supposed to.
>>>
>>>
>> That is not a correct assumption. The two commands (unlock_ip and
>> unlock_pathname) are not necessarily called together. It is ok for local
>> filesystem (ext3) but not for cluster filesystem where the very same
>> filesystem (or subtree) can be exported from multiple servers using
>> different subtrees.
>>
>
> Ouch. Are people really doing that, and why? What happens if the
> subtrees share files (because of hard links) that are locked from both
> nodes?
>
It is *more* common than you would expect - say server1 exports
"/mnt/gfs/maildir/namea-j" and server2 exports "/mnt/gfs/maildir/namek-z".
>
>> Also as we discussed before, it is
>> "unlock_filesystem", *not* "unlock_pathname" (this implies sub-tree
>> exports) due to implementation difficulties (see the "Implementation
>> Notes" from http://people.redhat.com/wcheng/Patches/NFS/NLM/004.txt).
>>
>
> Unless I misread the latest patch, it's actually matching on the
> vfsmount, right?
>
Yes.
> I guess that means we *could* handle the above situation by doing a
>
> mount --bind /path/to/export/point /path/to/export/point
>
> on each export, at which point there will be a separate vfsmount for
> each export point?
>
Cluster configuration itself has been cumbersome and error-prone.
Requirement like this will not be well received. On the other hand,
force-unlock a mount point is a *last* resort - since NFS clients using
another ip interface would lose the contact with the server. We should
*not* consider "unlock_filesystem" a frequent event.
> But I don't think that's what we really want. The goal is to ensure
> that the nfs server holds no locks on a disk filesystem so we can
> unmount it completely from this machine and mount it elsewhere. So we
> should really be removing all locks for the superblock, not just for a
> particular mount of that superblock. Otherwise we'll have odd problems
> if someone happens to do the unlock_filesystem downcall from a different
> namespace or something.
>
Oh ... sorry .. didn't read this far... so we agree the "--bind" is not
a good idea :) ..
-- Wendy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-24 21:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-07 5:39 [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 1/2] NLM failover unlock commands Wendy Cheng
[not found] ` <message from Wendy Cheng on Monday January 7>
2008-01-08 5:18 ` [Cluster-devel] " Neil Brown
2008-01-09 2:51 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-08 5:31 ` [Cluster-devel] Re: [PATCH 2/2] Fix lockd panic Neil Brown
2008-01-09 3:02 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-09 4:43 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-09 23:33 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-12 6:51 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-08 17:02 ` [Cluster-devel] Re: [PATCH 1/2] NLM failover unlock commands Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-08 17:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-08 20:57 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-09 18:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-10 7:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-12 7:03 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-12 9:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-14 23:07 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <message from J. Bruce Fields on Monday January 14>
2008-01-14 23:31 ` Neil Brown
2008-01-22 22:53 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <message from J. Bruce Fields on Tuesday January 22>
2008-01-24 4:02 ` Neil Brown
2008-01-15 16:14 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-15 16:30 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <message from Wendy Cheng on Saturday January 12>
2008-01-14 23:52 ` Neil Brown
2008-01-15 20:17 ` Wendy Cheng
[not found] ` <message from Wendy Cheng on Tuesday January 15>
2008-01-15 20:50 ` Neil Brown
2008-01-15 20:56 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-15 22:48 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 15:10 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-17 15:48 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 16:08 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 16:10 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-18 10:21 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2008-01-18 15:00 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 16:14 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-17 16:17 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 16:21 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-17 16:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-17 16:31 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 16:40 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <1200591323.13670.34.camel@dyn9047022153>
2008-01-17 17:59 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 18:07 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 20:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-18 10:03 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2008-01-18 14:56 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-24 16:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <4798BAAE.6090107@redhat.com>
2008-01-24 16:39 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-24 19:45 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-24 20:19 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-24 21:06 ` Wendy Cheng [this message]
2008-01-24 21:40 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-24 21:49 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-28 3:46 ` Felix Blyakher
2008-01-28 15:56 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-28 17:06 ` Felix Blyakher
2008-01-16 4:19 ` Neil Brown
2008-01-09 3:49 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-09 16:13 ` J. Bruce Fields
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2008-01-07 5:53 [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Fix lockd panic Wendy Cheng
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