From: Fabio M. Di Nitto <fdinitto@redhat.com>
To: cluster-devel.redhat.com
Subject: [Cluster-devel] cluster/logging settings
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:28:38 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810310620280.2932@trider-g7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081030190248.GB14130@redhat.com>
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, David Teigland wrote:
>> If I set log_level to LOG_INFO, I do expect to see both critblabla and
>> infoblabla on all selected outputs.
>
> Note that you've said "log_level", but it's actually "syslog_level", which
> might lead people to different conclusions about what the option does.
I meant syslog_level. You are right.
void logt_print(int level, char *fmt, ...)
{
va_list ap;
if (level > logt_priority)
return;
we send a logt_print(LOG_DEBUG..
but if syslog_level is set to LOG_INFO, that message will not make it
anywhere, even if debug=on.
>
>> If I set log_level to LOG_DEBUG, I clearly expect to see debugblabla
>> passing throgh as well.
>> (except if filtering to syslog is enabled, but we already agreed on this
>> as required feature so I won't mention it as special case anylonger).
>>
>> I often expect that enabling LOG_DEBUG as priority, it will also enable
>> debugging code in general and viceversa. If I set debug=on, I want to be
>> able to catch LOG_DEBUG automatically, because i assume that most of the
>> LOG_DEBUG is wrapped between if(debug) { } statements. I don't feel the
>> need to set two options to enable full debugging.
>
> You don't need to. Under my scheme, you set debug=on, and full debugging
> appears in the log file where most people want it, and it doesn't appear
> in syslog where most people wouldn't want it.
Not really.. see below the code snippet...
> If someone *does* want all
> debugging to appear in syslog, then they set debug=on and
> syslog_level=debug to get it... (and once they see the result, they'll
> change it back, because it's really not nice to see all that in
> /var/log/messages.)
We all agreed on this already that's why we have the
LOG_MODE_FILTER_DEBUG_FROM_SYSLOG that we should probably make a config
option in cluster.conf or simply avoid by default.
> Under your scheme, syslog_level and debug change each other in confusing
> and redundant ways.
It's not really confusing.. debug enables LOG_DEBUG and LOG_DEBUG enables
debug. The only thing that might be confusing is that you need to take
into account global debug, (sub)system debug setting and priority.
> By setting debug=on you automatically get all
> debugging in syslog (in addition to the logfile usually), which is not
> where we wanted it... So we added yet another complication:
> LOG_MODE_FILTER_DEBUG_FROM_SYSLOG, which counteracts the bad effects of
> the debug/syslog_level interaction which we didn't really want in the
> first place. See how complicated this gets when you have one option
> changing another one, but not quite the way you want, so you add another
> flag to work around the unintended effects of one setting implicitly
> changing another? It's bad all around: just keep them independent and all
> the pain goes away.
>
> (We wouldn't need FILTER_DEBUG_FROM_SYSLOG in my scheme because you
> control each source and destination point explicitly; you say exactly what
> you want, and get it.)
Unless I am misreading your code:
void logt_print(int level, char *fmt, ...)
{
va_list ap;
if (level > logt_priority)
return;
we send a logt_print(LOG_DEBUG..
if syslog_level is set to LOG_INFO, that message will not make it
anywhere, even if debug=on.
maybe debug=on should really set syslog_level=LOG_DEBUG and
LOG_MODE_FILTER_DEBUG_FROM_SYSLOG to make this really happen.
Fabio
--
I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-31 5:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-30 17:17 [Cluster-devel] cluster/logging settings David Teigland
2008-10-30 18:20 ` Fabio M. Di Nitto
2008-10-30 19:02 ` David Teigland
2008-10-31 5:28 ` Fabio M. Di Nitto [this message]
2008-10-31 5:34 ` Fabio M. Di Nitto
2008-10-31 6:26 ` Steven Dake
2008-11-04 20:58 ` David Teigland
2008-11-04 21:24 ` David Teigland
2008-11-07 2:42 ` Steven Dake
2008-11-07 5:07 ` Fabio M. Di Nitto
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