cluster-devel.redhat.com archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: cluster-devel.redhat.com
Subject: [Cluster-devel] remove iomap_writepage v2
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2022 15:18:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YuKam52dkTGycay2@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220728111016.uwbaywprzkzne7ib@quack3>

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 01:10:16PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> Hi Christoph!
> 
> On Tue 19-07-22 06:13:07, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > this series removes iomap_writepage and it's callers, following what xfs
> > has been doing for a long time.
> 
> So this effectively means "no writeback from page reclaim for these
> filesystems" AFAICT (page migration of dirty pages seems to be handled by
> iomap_migrate_page()) which is going to make life somewhat harder for
> memory reclaim when memory pressure is high enough that dirty pages are
> reaching end of the LRU list. I don't expect this to be a problem on big
> machines but it could have some undesirable effects for small ones
> (embedded, small VMs). I agree per-page writeback has been a bad idea for
> efficiency reasons for at least last 10-15 years and most filesystems
> stopped dealing with more complex situations (like block allocation) from
> ->writepage() already quite a few years ago without any bug reports AFAIK.
> So it all seems like a sensible idea from FS POV but are MM people on board
> or at least aware of this movement in the fs land?

I mentioned it during my folio session at LSFMM, but didn't put a huge
emphasis on it.

For XFS, writeback should already be in progress on other pages if
we're getting to the point of trying to call ->writepage() in vmscan.
Surely this is also true for other filesystems?


  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-28 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-19  4:13 [Cluster-devel] remove iomap_writepage v2 Christoph Hellwig
2022-07-19  4:13 ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 1/4] gfs2: stop using generic_writepages in gfs2_ail1_start_one Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-18 21:22   ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-19  6:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-07-19  4:13 ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 2/4] gfs2: remove ->writepage Christoph Hellwig
2022-07-19  4:13 ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 3/4] zonefs: " Christoph Hellwig
2022-07-19  6:56   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-07-19  4:13 ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 4/4] iomap: remove iomap_writepage Christoph Hellwig
2022-07-19  6:56   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-07-22 17:56   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-07-28 11:10 ` [Cluster-devel] remove iomap_writepage v2 Jan Kara
2022-07-28 14:18   ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2022-07-28 22:48     ` Dave Chinner
2022-07-28 23:26       ` Yang Shi
2022-07-29  9:22   ` Mel Gorman
2022-07-29 14:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-08-01 15:31       ` Johannes Weiner
2022-08-10 20:43         ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-10 21:32           ` Andreas Grünbacher
2022-08-10 23:17             ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-11  5:58           ` Christoph Hellwig

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=YuKam52dkTGycay2@casper.infradead.org \
    --to=willy@infradead.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).