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From: sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Containers <containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
	Pavel Emelianov <xemul-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Signal semantics for /sbin/init
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:00:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070914030053.GA21242@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070913165820.GA3465-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>

Oleg Nesterov [oleg-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org] wrote:
| On 09/13, Cedric Le Goater wrote:
| >
| > Oleg Nesterov wrote:
| > > On 09/10, sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org wrote:
| > >> (This is Oleg's patch with my pid ns additions. Compiled and unit tested
| > >> on 2.6.23-rc4-mm1 with other patches in this set. Oleg pls update this
| > >> patch if necessary and sign-off)
| > > 
| > > Sukadev, my apologies. This patch does need some changes,
| > > 
| > >> Notes:
| > >>
| > >> 	- Blocked signals are never ignored, so init still can receive
| > >> 	  a pending blocked signal after sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK).
| > >> 	  Easy to fix, but probably we can ignore this issue.
| > > 
| > > I was wrong. This should be fixed right now. I _think_ this is easy,
| > > and I was going to finish this patch yesterday, but - sorry! - I just
| > > can't switch to "kernel mode" these days, I am fighting with some urgent
| > > tasks on my paid job.
| > > 
| > To respect the current init semantic,
| 
| The current init semantic is broken in many ways ;)
| 
| > shouldn't we discard any unblockable 
| > signal (STOP and KILL) sent by a process to its pid namespace init process ? 

Yes. And Patch 1/3 (Oleg's patch) in the set I sent, handles this already
(since STOP and KILL are never in the task->blocked list)


| > Then, all other signals should be handled appropriately by the pid namespace 
| > init. 

| 
| Yes, I think you are probably right, this should be enough in practice. After all,
| only root can send the signal to /sbin/init.

I agree - the assumption that the container-init will handle these
other signals, simplifies the kernel implementation for now.


| On my machine, /proc/1/status shows that init doesn't have a handler for
| non-ignored SIGUNUSED == 31, though.
| 
| But who knows? The kernel promises some guarantees, it is not good to break them.
| Perhaps some strange non-standard environment may suffer.
| 
| > We are assuming that the pid namespace init is not doing anything silly and 
| > I guess it's OK if the consequences are only on the its pid namespace and 
| > not the whole system.
| 
| The sub-namespace case is very easy afaics, we only need the "signal comes from
| the parent namespace" check, not a problem if we make the decision on the sender's
| path, like this patch does.

Yes, patches 2 and 3 of the set already do the ancestor-ns check. no ?

| 
| Oleg.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-14  3:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-11  4:10 [PATCH 1/3] Signal semantics for /sbin/init sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found] ` <20070911041030.GA1264-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-11 11:19   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]     ` <20070911111928.GA123-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-13 15:40       ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]         ` <46E959EB.2070207-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-13 16:58           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]             ` <20070913165820.GA3465-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-14  3:00               ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <20070914030053.GA21242-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-17 15:21                   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                     ` <20070917152122.GA861-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-18 19:00                       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                         ` <20070918190052.GA14030-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-27  3:04                           ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                             ` <20070927030453.GA24451-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-28 10:38                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-10-01 17:00                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                             ` <20071001170035.GA10939-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 17:47                               ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                 ` <20071001174720.GB28100-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-01 18:08                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                     ` <20071001180849.GA21343-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-05  4:30                                       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                         ` <20071005043030.GA27787-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-08 14:36                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                             ` <20071008143649.GA23774-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-08 15:42                                               ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2007-09-14 10:16               ` [Devel] " Daniel Pittman
     [not found]                 ` <87myvpo8le.fsf-kiwxAyAbAnkGAYDEi5AF0l6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-17 15:24                   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                     ` <20070917152411.GB861-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-17 23:20                       ` Daniel Pittman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-08-31 20:29 sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found] ` <20070831202949.GA3268-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-01 11:02   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]     ` <20070901110221.GC191-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-03 15:56       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]         ` <20070903155609.GA2793-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-03 16:45           ` Oleg Nesterov

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