From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>,
sukadev@us.ibm.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
serue@us.ibm.com, "David C. Hansen" <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] change clone_flags type to u64
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:14:53 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080410171453.GA7023@sergelap.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080410125205.GG10019@one.firstfloor.org>
Quoting Andi Kleen (andi@firstfloor.org):
> > I guess that was a development rationale.
>
> But what rationale? It just doesn't make much sense to me.
>
> > Most of the namespaces are in
> > use in the container projects like openvz, vserver and probably others
> > and we needed a way to activate the code.
>
> You could just have added it to feature groups over time.
>
> >
> > Not perfect I agree.
> >
> > > With your current strategy are you sure that even 64bit will
> > > be enough in the end? For me it rather looks like you'll
> > > go through those quickly too as more and more of the kernel
> > > is namespaced.
> >
> > well, we're reaching the end. I hope ! devpts is in progress and
> > mq is just waiting for a clone flag.
>
> Are you sure?
Well for one thing we can take a somewhat different approach to new
clone flags. I.e. we could extend CLONE_NEWIPC to do mq instead of
introducing a new clone flag. The name doesn't have 'sysv' in it,
and globbing all ipc resources together makes some amount of sense.
Similarly has hpa+eric pointed out earlier, suka could use
CLONE_NEWDEV for ptys. If we have net, pid, ipc, devices, that's a
pretty reasonable split imo. Perhaps we tie user to devices and get
rid of CLONE_NEWUSER which I suspect noone is using atm (since only
Dave has run into the CONFIG_USER_SCHED problem). Or not. We could
roll uts into net, and give CLONE_NEWUTS a deprecation period.
-serge
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-10 17:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-09 22:26 [PATCH 0/3] clone64() and unshare64() system calls sukadev
2008-04-09 22:32 ` [PATCH 1/3] change clone_flags type to u64 sukadev
2008-04-10 8:25 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-10 12:25 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-04-10 12:52 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <20080410125205.GG10019-qrUzlfsMFqo/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-10 13:11 ` Kirill Korotaev
2008-04-10 13:23 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-04-10 13:18 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-04-10 17:14 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2008-04-10 22:13 ` Daniel Hokka Zakrisson
2008-04-10 22:49 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-04-11 8:45 ` Daniel Hokka Zakrisson
2008-04-09 22:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] add do_unshare() sukadev
2008-04-09 22:34 ` [PATCH 3/3] add the clone64() and unshare64() syscalls sukadev
[not found] ` <20080409223459.GC28267-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-09 23:07 ` Jakub Jelinek
2008-04-10 2:15 ` sukadev
[not found] ` <20080410021523.GB28477-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-10 3:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <20080409222611.GA28087-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-10 0:00 ` [PATCH 0/3] clone64() and unshare64() system calls H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-10 1:07 ` sukadev
[not found] ` <20080410010717.GA28477-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-10 1:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-10 2:38 ` sukadev
2008-04-10 2:43 ` Paul Menage
2008-04-10 18:26 ` sukadev
[not found] ` <20080410182616.GF28477-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-10 18:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-10 12:33 ` Cedric Le Goater
[not found] ` <47FE0906.8080102-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-10 16:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-10 6:48 ` Cedric Le Goater
[not found] <20080207103135.558333713@fr.ibm.com>
2008-02-07 10:31 ` [patch 1/3] change clone_flags type to u64 Cedric Le Goater
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