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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>,
	sukadev@us.ibm.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	serue@us.ibm.com, "David C. Hansen" <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] change clone_flags type to u64
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:14:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080410171453.GA7023@sergelap.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080410125205.GG10019@one.firstfloor.org>

Quoting Andi Kleen (andi@firstfloor.org):
> > I guess that was a development rationale. 
> 
> But what rationale? It just doesn't make much sense to me.
> 
> > Most of the namespaces are in 
> > use in the container projects like openvz, vserver and probably others 
> > and we needed a way to activate the code.
> 
> You could just have added it to feature groups over time.
> 
> > 
> > Not perfect I agree.
> >  
> > > With your current strategy are you sure that even 64bit will
> > > be enough in the end? For me it rather looks like you'll
> > > go through those quickly too as more and more of the kernel
> > > is namespaced.
> > 
> > well, we're reaching the end. I hope ! devpts is in progress and
> > mq is just waiting for a clone flag.
> 
> Are you sure?

Well for one thing we can take a somewhat different approach to new
clone flags.  I.e. we could extend CLONE_NEWIPC to do mq instead of
introducing a new clone flag.  The name doesn't have 'sysv' in it,
and globbing all ipc resources together makes some amount of sense.
Similarly has hpa+eric pointed out earlier, suka could use
CLONE_NEWDEV for ptys.  If we have net, pid, ipc, devices, that's a
pretty reasonable split imo.  Perhaps we tie user to devices and get
rid of CLONE_NEWUSER which I suspect noone is using atm (since only
Dave has run into the CONFIG_USER_SCHED problem).  Or not.  We could
roll uts into net, and give CLONE_NEWUTS a deprecation period.

-serge

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-10 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-09 22:26 [PATCH 0/3] clone64() and unshare64() system calls sukadev
2008-04-09 22:32 ` [PATCH 1/3] change clone_flags type to u64 sukadev
2008-04-10  8:25   ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-10 12:25     ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-04-10 12:52       ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]         ` <20080410125205.GG10019-qrUzlfsMFqo/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-10 13:11           ` Kirill Korotaev
2008-04-10 13:23             ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-04-10 13:18         ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-04-10 17:14         ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2008-04-10 22:13           ` Daniel Hokka Zakrisson
2008-04-10 22:49             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-04-11  8:45               ` Daniel Hokka Zakrisson
2008-04-09 22:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] add do_unshare() sukadev
2008-04-09 22:34 ` [PATCH 3/3] add the clone64() and unshare64() syscalls sukadev
     [not found]   ` <20080409223459.GC28267-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-09 23:07     ` Jakub Jelinek
2008-04-10  2:15       ` sukadev
     [not found]         ` <20080410021523.GB28477-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-10  3:40           ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found] ` <20080409222611.GA28087-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-10  0:00   ` [PATCH 0/3] clone64() and unshare64() system calls H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-10  1:07     ` sukadev
     [not found]       ` <20080410010717.GA28477-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-10  1:10         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-10  2:38           ` sukadev
2008-04-10  2:43             ` Paul Menage
2008-04-10 18:26               ` sukadev
     [not found]                 ` <20080410182616.GF28477-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-10 18:31                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-10 12:33           ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]             ` <47FE0906.8080102-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-10 16:00               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-10  6:48     ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found] <20080207103135.558333713@fr.ibm.com>
2008-02-07 10:31 ` [patch 1/3] change clone_flags type to u64 Cedric Le Goater

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