From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kyle-hoO6YkzgTuCM0SS3m2neIg@public.gmane.org,
Dave Hansen <dave-gkUM19QKKo4@public.gmane.org>,
bastian-yyjItF7Rl6lg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org,
Cedric Le Goater <clg-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org,
alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org,
xemul-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/8][v2]: Enable multiple mounts of devpts
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:52:11 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080902155211.GF8524@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1vdxeeuk0.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org):
> "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> >> (3.2) mnt namespace maybe ?
> >
> > I think the last one is the way to go.
> >
> > mnt_namespace points to mq_ns.
> >
> > At clone(CLONE_NEWMNT), the new mnt namespace receives a copy of the
> > parent's mq_ns.
> >
> > If a task does
> > mount -o newinstance -t mqueue none /dev/mqueue
> > then its current->nsproxy->mnt_namespace->mqns is switched
> > to point to a new instance of the mq_ns.
> >
> > mnt_ns->mq_ns has pointers to the sb (and hence root dentry) of the
> > devpts fs.
> >
> > When a task does mq_open(name, flag), then name is in the mqueuefs
> > found in current->nsproxy->mnt_namespace->mqns.
> >
> > But if a task does
> >
> > clone(CLONE_NEWMNT);
> > mount --move /dev/mqueue /oldmqueue
> > mount -o newinstance -t mqueue none /dev/mqueue
> >
> > then that task can find files for the old mqueuefs under
> > /oldmqueue, while mq_open() uses /dev/mqueue since that's
> > what it finds through its mnt_namespace.
>
> Serge if we can make the lookup a pure mount namespace operation
> i.e. a well known path. Than I don't have any problems with it.
> Otherwise it looks like abuse of the mount namespace.
Why?
Actually it may work to just put mq_ns straight in the nsproxy.
So let's see:
mq_open(name, flag): opens name under the dentry pointed
to by current->nsproxy->mq_ns->mq_dentry
mount -t mqueue none /dev/mqueue: either returns -EBUSY
or just mounts current->nsproxy->mq_ns->mq_sb
under /dev/mqueue
mount -o newinstance -t mqueue none /dev/mqueue: mounts
a new mq_ns instance under /dev/mqueue
While doing
mount --make-rshared /vs1
mount --bind /dev/mqueue /vs1/dev/mqueue
create_a_new_container_chrooted_at(/vs1)
mount -o newinstance -t mqueue none /dev/mqueue
would allow the host to see the child's /dev/mqueue under
/vs1/dev/mqueue while having its own mqueuefs continue to be
mounted under /dev/mqueue.
> In particular. The best approximation I have is to change the
> kernel to simply lookup "/dev/mqueue" and if not found fallback
> to the initial kernel instance.
Having the kernel walk a hard-coded pathname to find it? That I really
don't like.
> I'm staring at the code as I really haven't looked at it enough
> but it sure looks like we can transform it into a proper filesystem
> with just a touch of backwards compatibility logic.
> - put the current mq_namespace in the superblock.
> - Have open/unlink lookup "/dev/mqueue" to find the filesystem
> if nothing is found fallback to the internal mount otherwise error.
> - Possibly put the tunables in a subdirectory? and
> bind mount that subdirectory on top of /proc/sys/fs/mqueue/
>
> I'm too thrilled about the tunables but still.
If mq_ns is stored under nsproxy, then so long as the task has
remounted /proc for its pidns anyway, we should be able to show
the right tunables under /proc as well, right?
> Are there any security holes or other oddness we would encounter
> if we did that?
>
> If we can turn the posix mqueue stuff into an honest to goodness
> filesystem then we completely avoid nsproxy,
I am assuming that mq_open() is posix-defined? So the only way
we could do that is, as you suggest, to have the kernel look up the
hard-coded /dev/mqueue path which IMO is a non-starter, and not
worth it to avoid nsproxy.
> and have something
> that is much nicer to deal with long term.
>
> Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-02 15:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-21 2:21 [RFC][PATCH 0/8][v2]: Enable multiple mounts of devpts sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
[not found] ` <20080821022126.GA29449-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 2:26 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/8]: /dev/tty tweak in init_dev() sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
[not found] ` <20080821022621.GA29658-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 9:19 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-21 9:26 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-21 2:26 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/8]: Add inode parameter devpts interfaces sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-08-21 2:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/8]: Remove devpts_root global sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-08-21 2:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/8]: Per-mount allocated_ptys sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-08-21 2:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/8]: Per-mount 'config' object sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-08-21 2:28 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/8]: Extract option parsing to new function sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-08-21 2:29 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/8]: Auto-create ptmx node when mounting devpts sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
[not found] ` <20080821022908.GG29658-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 9:21 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20080821102139.43c44f67-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 16:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <48AD932F.8090908-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 16:27 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20080821172700.781b0011-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 16:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <48AD9C93.6080302-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 17:22 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20080821172245.GA28411-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 17:07 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-21 17:23 ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
[not found] ` <20080821172342.GA8059-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 17:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m18wuqtgj7.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 17:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <48ADAAE2.6040700-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 18:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1hc9eqlbo.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 18:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-21 17:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <48ADA890.4060309-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 18:11 ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
[not found] ` <20080821181133.GB8059-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 18:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-21 21:00 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20080821210040.GA14532-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 22:16 ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-08-21 2:29 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/8]: Enable multiple mounts of devpts sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-08-21 2:45 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/8][v2]: " H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <48ACD6CB.5030706-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 3:10 ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
[not found] ` <20080821031028.GB30205-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 3:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <48ACDDC7.3000704-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 16:34 ` Cedric Le Goater
[not found] ` <48AD991F.9010906-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 16:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] ` <48AD9A97.6000807-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 16:54 ` Cedric Le Goater
[not found] ` <48AD9DCD.3060306-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 16:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-21 17:28 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-21 17:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1fxoys1ng.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 21:02 ` Cedric Le Goater
[not found] ` <48ADD7D3.7080400-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-29 9:02 ` Cedric Le Goater
[not found] ` <48B7BB3C.5080404-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-02 3:04 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20080902030426.GB12277-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-02 10:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1vdxeeuk0.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-02 15:52 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
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2008-09-03 12:01 ` Cedric Le Goater
[not found] ` <48BE7C98.1040004-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 13:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-09-03 13:41 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-03 11:47 ` Cedric Le Goater
[not found] ` <48BE7959.1080109-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 13:24 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-03 11:43 ` Cedric Le Goater
[not found] ` <48BE7845.6070500-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 13:23 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20080903132307.GA9527-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 13:52 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-02 9:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1d4jmhpgl.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 12:04 ` Cedric Le Goater
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