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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, rientjes@google.com, npiggin@suse.de,
	menage@google.com, dfults@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	containers@lists.osdl.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/7] cpuset writeback throttling
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:35:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081104143534.b5c16147.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0811041601100.5077@quilx.com>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:17:52 -0600 (CST)
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > What are the alternatives here?  What do we need to do to make
> > throttling a per-memcg thing?
> 
> Add statistics to the memcg lru and then you need some kind of sets of 
> memcgs that are represented by bitmaps or so attached to an inode.
> 
> > The patchset is badly misnamed, btw.  It doesn't throttle writeback -
> > in fact several people are working on IO bandwidth controllers and
> > calling this thing "writeback throttling" risks confusion.
> 
> It is limiting dirty pages and throttling the dirty rate of applications 
> in a  NUMA system (same procedure as we do in non NUMA). The excessive 
> dirtying without this patchset can cause OOMs to occur on NUMA systems.

yup.

To fix this with a memcg-based throttling, the operator would need to
be able to create memcg's which have pages only from particular nodes. 
(That's a bit indirect relative to what they want to do, but is
presumably workable).

But do we even have that capability now?

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-04 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <alpine.DEB.2.00.0810292337170.23858@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
     [not found] ` <20081104124753.fb1dde5a.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found]   ` <1225831988.7803.1939.camel@twins>
     [not found]     ` <20081104131637.68fbe055.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found]       ` <1225833710.7803.1993.camel@twins>
2008-11-04 21:50         ` [patch 0/7] cpuset writeback throttling Andrew Morton
2008-11-04 22:17           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-04 22:35             ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-11-04 22:52               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-04 23:36                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-05  1:31                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-05  3:09                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-05  2:45                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-05  3:05                     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                       ` <20081104190505.769b93ec.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-05  4:31                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-10  9:02                           ` Andrea Righi
     [not found]                             ` <4917F895.109-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-10 10:02                               ` David Rientjes
2008-11-05 13:52                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-05 18:41                         ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-05 20:21                           ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0811051415360.31450-dRBSpnHQED8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-05 20:31                               ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-05 20:40                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-05 20:56                                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-05 21:28                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-11-05 21:55                                     ` Paul Menage
2008-11-05 22:04                                     ` David Rientjes
2008-11-06  1:34                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 20:35                                         ` David Rientjes

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