From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers
<containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman"
<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] keys: play nicely with user namespaces
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:17:07 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081212141707.GB9571@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3507.1229086294-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Quoting David Howells (dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org):
> Serge E. Hallyn <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > so here is a first attempt at getting keys and uid namespaces
> > to play nice. The semantics need some discussion. As I recall
> > Eric and yourself appeared to agree that some keyrings should
> > be inherited into child user namespaces.
>
> Ummm... If keys are effectively a per-user-namespace resource, then they
> can't be shared between namespaces. We could either duplicate all the keys
> and keyrings, or we could just start afresh. The latter is certainly the
> easiest.
>
> > I segragate them cleanly bc that appears to be the simplest thing to do
> > especially given the use of i.e. lookup_by_name("uid.500").
>
> Sounds reasonable.
>
> > IMO it shouldn't be a big problem - userspace can always list keys it wants
> > into a file, start a new user namespace, then re-read them out of the
> > tempfile...
>
> Not so. You aren't necessarily permitted to read a key - the read function
> has to be supported by the key type for a start, and then you have to pass all
> the security checks.
I guess the question is what sorts of keys would you want a child
user-namespace to inherit (that perhaps it couldn't)? The primary
ones I can think of are keys for an encrypted fs. Are there any sorts
of keys X uses?
Anyway if this set of patches does the segration correctly, I can float
a patch on top of these to copy the keyrings. But should the (automatic
in-kernel) copy then still go through the security checks? (If not, is
that safe, and if so, is there any advantage?)
Do you have an automated testsuite for the keyrings? I just played
around with keyctl to test, since there was nothing in ltp.
thanks,
-serge
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Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-11 23:23 [PATCH 0/3] keys: play nicely with user namespaces Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20081211232323.GA8343-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-11 23:23 ` [PATCH 1/3] keys: distinguish per-uid keys in different namespaces Serge E. Hallyn
2008-12-11 23:23 ` [PATCH 2/3] keys: consider user namespace in key_permission Serge E. Hallyn
2008-12-11 23:24 ` [PATCH 3/3] keys: skip keys from another user namespace Serge E. Hallyn
2008-12-12 12:51 ` [PATCH 0/3] keys: play nicely with user namespaces David Howells
[not found] ` <3507.1229086294-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-12 14:17 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
[not found] ` <20081212141707.GB9571-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-12 15:57 ` David Howells
[not found] ` <25987.1229097458-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-12 16:22 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-12-17 23:55 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20081212162220.GA15520-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-12 16:42 ` David Howells
[not found] ` <26177.1229100126-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-12 17:33 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20081212173312.GA19085-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-12 18:38 ` David Howells
[not found] ` <28464.1229107090-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-12 19:31 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20081217235536.GA932-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-18 1:03 ` David Howells
2008-12-18 13:46 ` David Howells
[not found] ` <3547.1229607983-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-18 17:46 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20081218174613.GA13968-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-19 0:56 ` David Howells
[not found] ` <7376.1229648192-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-19 1:45 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20081219014555.GA25688-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-19 2:30 ` David Howells
[not found] ` <7658.1229653824-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-19 9:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1r6447csx.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-19 11:17 ` David Howells
[not found] ` <10350.1229685462-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-19 14:37 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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