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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org"
	<containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman"
	<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Net containers config and usage
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:26:34 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090114192633.GA8572@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <496E23DA.9080402-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>

Quoting Daniel Lezcano (daniel.lezcano-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org):
> chris-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 09:50:29AM +0100, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> >   
> >> Guenter Roeck wrote:
> >>     
> >>> As far as I recall, if you have sysfs active and use the sysfs patch to
> >>> let you configure both sysfs and network namespaces, you can only move
> >>> virtual interfaces into a network namespace.
> >>>
> >>> Guenter
> >>>  
> >>>       
> >> Ah ! yes, you are right :)
> >>
> >> The current upstream implementation allowing sysfs and netns to coexist 
> >> together has one restriction, the physical network devices can not be 
> >> moved if sysfs is enabled in the kernel. This is why Chris can not move 
> >> the physical network device with this version of the kernel.
> >> This restriction will be set until the sysfs per namespace is fully 
> >> supported.
> >>
> >> This restriction does not exist with with the previous kernel version 
> >> with the sysfs per namespace patchset.
> >>
> >> -- Daniel
> >>
> >>     
> >
> > Ah, great, thanks to all for your help on this.
> > Do you have any rough estimate when the support for sysfs per namespace will
> >   
> The sysfs per namespace has been rejected because of some design 
> problems related with the sysfs itself.
> Perhaps Eric can tell more about that...

Chris, in the meantime, is using the physical device an absolute
necessity, or could you work around it for now using a veth tunnel?

Even if Eric has been working on the sysfs locking rework quietly
the last few months, i'd expect several months of back-and-forth
trying to prove that the rework is correct...

-serge

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-14 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-12 22:35 Net containers config and usage chris-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ
     [not found] ` <20090112223545.GA15781-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-12 22:51   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20090112225140.GA29834-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-13  0:54       ` chris-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ
     [not found]         ` <20090113005436.GA26167-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-13  8:20           ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]             ` <496C4EB0.30203-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-13 14:29               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20090113142925.GA11767-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-13 19:18                   ` chris-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ
     [not found]                     ` <20090113191837.GA29900-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-13 19:37                       ` Guenter Roeck
2009-01-13 19:49                         ` chris-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ
2009-01-13 19:52                       ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                         ` <496CF11A.7090908-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-13 21:47                           ` chris-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ
     [not found]                             ` <20090113214747.GA23742-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-13 22:53                               ` Guenter Roeck
2009-01-14  8:50                                 ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                                   ` <496DA755.1040001-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-14 17:27                                     ` chris-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ
     [not found]                                       ` <20090114172739.GA13581-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-14 17:41                                         ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                                           ` <496E23DA.9080402-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-14 19:26                                             ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
     [not found]                                               ` <20090114192633.GA8572-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-14 19:39                                                 ` chris-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ
     [not found]                                                   ` <20090114193944.GA14129-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-14 19:53                                                     ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                                                       ` <496E42D6.2080306-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-15 21:59                                                         ` chris-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ
     [not found]                                                           ` <20090115215900.GA30607-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-15 22:21                                                             ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                                                               ` <496FB6F7.9080906-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-15 23:20                                                                 ` Chris R. Jones
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20090115232013.GA9722-SqNQQPNds68nxqbYAscKCQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-16  4:38                                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-14 22:10                                             ` Eric W. Biederman

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