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From: Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
To: Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Cc: xemul-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	dave-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org,
	mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org,
	Alexey Dobriyan
	<adobriyan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/38] Remove struct mm_struct::exe_file et al
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:50:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090531165026.376a914c.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0905311613260.3435-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>

On Sun, 31 May 2009 16:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Linus Torvalds <torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Sun, 31 May 2009, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > 
> > What I always find a bit weird is that an MM container is used as the
> > central point for a number of sched obects.  But it's logical, given
> > that the never-before-stated definition of a heavyweight process is
> > "thing which share a VM".
> 
> It has nothing to do with "heavy-weight process" or anything else.
> 
> The thing is, from a scheduling standpoint, one of the primary performance 
> concerns in the TLB switch.
> 
> And there's a 1:1 relationship between TLB switch and MM container, modulo 
> the issue of kernel tasks (and those obviously "borrow" approproate MM 
> structs to avoid the switch).

That's all an obscure performance-oriented internal implementation detail.

> So it's not weird at all. It's very direct, and a very straightforward and 
> obvious relationship.

It's arbitrary!  If we were to gain more performance benefit by
aggregating processes under, say, the fs_struct then that's the way the
kernel would have been implemented.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-31 23:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090526113618.GJ28083@us.ibm.com>
     [not found] ` <20090526113618.GJ28083-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-26 23:24   ` [PATCH 14/38] Remove struct mm_struct::exe_file et al Andrew Morton
     [not found] ` <20090526162415.fb9cefef.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found]   ` <20090526162415.fb9cefef.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-31 21:54     ` Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]       ` <20090531215427.GA29534-2ev+ksY9ol182hYKe6nXyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-31 22:19         ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]           ` <20090531151953.8f8b14b5.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-31 23:15             ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]               ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0905311613260.3435-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-31 23:50                 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <20090531165026.376a914c.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01  0:02                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 23:04             ` [PATCH 1/9] exec_path 1/9: introduce ->exec_path and switch /proc/*/exe Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]               ` <20090603230422.GB853-2ev+ksY9ol182hYKe6nXyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-03 23:05                 ` [PATCH 2/9] exec_path 2/9: switch audit to ->exec_path Alexey Dobriyan
2009-06-03 23:05                 ` [PATCH 3/9] exec_path 3/9: switch TOMOYO " Alexey Dobriyan
2009-06-03 23:06                 ` [PATCH 4/9] exec_path 4/9: switch oprofile " Alexey Dobriyan
2009-06-03 23:06                 ` [PATCH 5/9] exec_path 5/9: make struct spu_context::owner task_struct Alexey Dobriyan
2009-06-03 23:06                 ` [PATCH 6/9] exec_path 6/9: add struct spu::tsk Alexey Dobriyan
2009-06-03 23:07                 ` [PATCH 7/9] exec_path 7/9: switch cell SPU thing to ->exec_path Alexey Dobriyan
2009-06-03 23:07                 ` [PATCH 8/9] exec_path 8/9: remove ->exe_file et al Alexey Dobriyan
2009-06-03 23:08                 ` [PATCH 9/9] exec_path 9/9: remove VM_EXECUTABLE Alexey Dobriyan
2009-06-03 23:36                 ` [PATCH 1/9] exec_path 1/9: introduce ->exec_path and switch /proc/*/exe Linus Torvalds
2009-06-04  7:55                 ` Matt Helsley
2009-06-05 10:45                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-06  7:22                 ` Al Viro
     [not found]               ` <20090603230810.GJ853@x200.localdomain>
     [not found]                 ` <20090603230810.GJ853-2ev+ksY9ol182hYKe6nXyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-04  7:24                   ` [PATCH 9/9] exec_path 9/9: remove VM_EXECUTABLE Matt Helsley
     [not found]               ` <20090604075532.GU9285@us.ibm.com>
     [not found]                 ` <20090604075532.GU9285-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-04  8:10                   ` [PATCH 1/9] exec_path 1/9: introduce ->exec_path and switch /proc/*/exe Matt Helsley
2009-06-04 15:07                   ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                 ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906040803410.4880@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]                   ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906040803410.4880-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-04 21:30                     ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]                   ` <20090604213033.GZ9285@us.ibm.com>
     [not found]                     ` <20090604213033.GZ9285-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-04 22:42                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]               ` <20090605104517.GA11713@infradead.org>
     [not found]                 ` <20090605104517.GA11713-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-05 15:10                   ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                 ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906050808551.6847@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]                   ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906050808551.6847-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-05 15:41                     ` Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]                   ` <20090605154147.GA16766@x200.localdomain>
     [not found]                     ` <20090605154147.GA16766-2ev+ksY9ol182hYKe6nXyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-05 15:49                       ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                     ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906050848520.6847@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]                       ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906050848520.6847-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-05 16:09                         ` Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]                       ` <20090605160943.GA5262@x200.localdomain>
     [not found]                         ` <20090605160943.GA5262-2ev+ksY9ol182hYKe6nXyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-05 16:48                           ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                             ` <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906050942450.6847-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-05 17:46                               ` Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]               ` <20090606072244.GA13497@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]                 ` <20090606072244.GA13497-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-15 22:10                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-06-01 17:30         ` [PATCH 14/38] Remove struct mm_struct::exe_file et al Matt Helsley
2009-05-26 11:36 Matt Helsley
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-22  4:54 [PATCH 01/38] cred: #include init.h in cred.h Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found] ` <1242968132-1044-1-git-send-email-adobriyan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-22  4:55   ` [PATCH 14/38] Remove struct mm_struct::exe_file et al Alexey Dobriyan

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