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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Sukadev Bhattiprolu
	<sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn"
	<serge.hallyn-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
	"Nathan Lynch" <nathanl-V7BBcbaFuwjMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	"Matthieu Fertré"
	<matthieu.fertre-aw0BnHfMbSpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Louis Rilling"
	<Louis.Rilling-aw0BnHfMbSpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Dan Smith" <danms-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: C/R: File substitution at restart
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:49:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100908224927.GA13496@hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100908175648.GA12281-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Quoting Sukadev Bhattiprolu (sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org):
> Serge Hallyn [serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org] wrote:
> | Quoting Matthieu Fertré (matthieu.fertre-aw0BnHfMbSpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org):
> | > Hi,
> | > 
> | > Here is a proposal for a C/R related feature already developed in
> | > Kerrighed: file substitution at restart.
> | > 
> | > The goal of this mail is to start a discussion about adding such feature
> | > to Linux cr. Comments are welcome!
> | 
> | Yup, AFAIK metacluster and zap do this too.  I don't think there is
> | any question about whether we want to support this, but rather
> | what the user-kernel API should look like.  Perhaps the easiest
> | "API" is to have the userspace program rewrite the checkpoint image,
> | but that probably isn't quite as simple as just substituting #s in
> | the image, bc we'll have to also find the place where the source of
> | the original fd was specified and tweak that.
> | 
> | I assume this is one of the things Oren would have 'cradvise()'
> | do, and at this point that sounds nice to me - might be worth
> | seeing how the community reacts.  Sentiments on such things change,
> | after all.
> 
> Yes, I had the same question about the kernel API. cradvise() would be
> one option, but am not too clear on the details. For each process in
> the checkpoint image that we want to substitute one or more fds,
> do we call cradvise() *before* the call to sys_restart() ? This would

No, I would rather think that we follow the Kerrighed example,
and specify a checkpoint-wide id for the fd (the objhash id i
guess).  The first cr_advise() starts to create a restart context,
which finally gets used at sys_restart by the coordinator (and of
course all subsequent tasks).

> require the kernel to save these substitution pairs in memory until
> the following sys_restart() right ?
> 
> Passing in a list of fd-substition pairs to sys_restart() might be one
> option, but would require modifying the sys_restart() API.
> 
> Sukadev

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-08 22:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-08 10:03 C/R: File substitution at restart Matthieu Fertré
     [not found] ` <4C875F6E.2030004-aw0BnHfMbSpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-08 13:09   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20100908130931.GA11161-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-08 17:56       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]         ` <20100908175648.GA12281-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-08 22:49           ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2010-09-08 19:35       ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]         ` <20100908193531.GB8957-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-09  1:03           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]             ` <20100909010352.GA13880-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-09  4:06               ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]                 ` <20100909040635.GE8957-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-09 10:37                   ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                     ` <20100909103720.GF4812-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-09 11:02                       ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]                         ` <20100909110220.GF8957-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-09 11:34                           ` Louis Rilling

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