From: Mandeep Singh Baines <msb-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: Q: cgroup: Questions about possible issues in cgroup locking
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:31:02 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120112003102.GB9511@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120111160730.GA24556-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Hi Oleg,
Oleg Nesterov (oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org) wrote:
> On 01/06, Mandeep Singh Baines wrote:
> >
> > Oleg Nesterov (oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org) wrote:
> > >
> > > > > in particular, http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=127714242731448
> > > > > I think this should work, but then we should do something with the
> > > > > users like zap_threads().
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > With that patch, won't you potentially miss the exec thread if an exec
> > > > occurs while you're iterating over the list? Is that OK?
> > >
> > > Of course it is not OK ;) Note the "we should do something with" above.
> > >
> >
> > So requirements should be something like this:
>
> (I assume, you mean the lockless case)
>
Correct.
> > * Any task alive for the duration of the iteration MUST be visited
> > * No task should be visited more than once
> > * Any task born or exiting after starting the iteration MAY be skipped
> > * You can start at any task in the thread group
>
> Well yes, but it is not easy to exactly define what after/before
> means in this case.
>
> > Would something like this work:
> >
> > #define while_each_thread(g, t, o) \
> > while (t->group_leader == o && (t = next_thread(t)) != g)
> >
> > Where o should have the value of g->group_leader.
>
> I don't understand how this helps... and how this can work even
> ignoring the barriers.
>
> OK, we have the main thream M and the sub-thread T, we are doing
>
> do {
> do_something(t);
> } while_each_thread(M, t, M);
>
> why we can't miss T if it does exec?
>
So for:
struct task *M; /* assuming this is passed in to us */
struct task *L = M->group_leader;
struct task *I = M;
do {
do_something(T);
} while_each_thread(M, T, L);
Here is my thinking.
If some thread K does exec, you won't miss it because:
1) Ignoring the group_leader check, you'll visit K just by following
next_thread(). That's the case today and is what you except
when iterating over an rcu_list.
2) (t->group_leader == o) will fail iff t is the exec thread.
Since we test t->group_leader before re-assigning it (t=next_thread()),
the test will fail only after visiting the exec thread. So you'll
visit the exec thread and then terminate the loop.
I realize its a klutzy interface (requires 3 variables) but it seems
correct (ignoring barriers) and meets all the requirements. I'm hoping
it inspires a solution which is less klutzy and meet its all the
requirements.
Regards,
Mandeep
> Oleg.
>
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2011-12-21 13:08 ` Q: cgroup: Questions about possible issues in cgroup locking Oleg Nesterov
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[not found] ` <20111221175632.GF17668@somewhere>
2011-12-21 19:01 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
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[not found] ` <20111221190102.GE13529-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-21 19:08 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 19:24 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
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2011-12-21 20:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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2011-12-22 15:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
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[not found] ` <20111222153004.GA30522-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-04 19:36 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
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[not found] ` <20120104193614.GF9511-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-06 15:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
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2012-01-06 18:25 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
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[not found] ` <20120106182535.GJ9511-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-11 16:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
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2012-01-12 0:31 ` Mandeep Singh Baines [this message]
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2012-01-12 17:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
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2012-01-12 17:57 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
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2012-01-13 15:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
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2012-01-13 18:27 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
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2012-01-14 17:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
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2012-01-18 23:17 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
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2012-01-19 15:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
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2012-01-19 18:18 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-03-20 19:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
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2012-01-20 15:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
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2012-03-21 18:59 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
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2012-03-23 17:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
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2011-12-21 17:56 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 17:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 18:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <20111221181101.GA3092-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-21 18:23 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 16:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 3:43 Frederic Weisbecker
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