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From: Vasily Kulikov <segoon-cxoSlKxDwOJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Linux Containers"
	<containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	Pkg-shadow-devel-XbBxUvOt3X2LieD7tvxI8l/i77bcL1HB@public.gmane.org,
	"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)"
	<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Nicolas François"
	<nicolas.francois-Fa7rcPG4DJn7nK0/Xc0eeg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] pkg-shadow support subordinate ids with user namespaces
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:38:16 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130130073816.GA14301@cachalot> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vcafyy0k.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 22:40 -0800, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Vasily Kulikov <segoon-cxoSlKxDwOJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> writes:
> > Why patch shadow tools?  Why not implement the feature as a PAM
> > module?
> 
> I need hooks into useradd and userdel to managed the subordinate
> user ids and group ids when users are added and removed from the
> system.  PAM doesn't appear to have any hooks like that at all.
> 
> Furthermore shadow-utils is where other uids and gids are allocated
> and it makes sense to keep the allocation functions together so if it
> makes sense they can talk to each other
> 
> > All other capabilities granting things are implemented as PAM modules:
> > pam_group, pam_namespace, pam_cap.
> 
> Except when you want to program the mapping is not at login time.
[...]

Understood.  So, a user needs to:

1) be able to reserve [ug]id ranges (more specifically, root allocated
the range).  These ranges should not be allocated by useradd, etc. afterwards.

2) be able to write to uid_map/gid_map files anytime with reserved
values of current user.

In this case patching shadow utils looks appropriate, yes.


Thanks,

-- 
Vasily Kulikov
http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-30  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-22  9:11 [PATCH 00/11] pkg-shadow support subordinate ids with user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] ` <87d2wxshu0.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-22  9:12   ` [PATCH 01/11] Documentation for /etc/subuid and /etc/subgid Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22  9:12   ` [PATCH 02/11] login.defs.5: Document the new variables in login.defs Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22  9:13   ` [PATCH 03/11] Implement commonio_append Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22  9:13   ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22  9:14   ` [PATCH 04/11] Add backend support for suboridnate uids and gids Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87liblr344.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-23 18:22       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20130123182206.GA4468-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-24 22:42           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87a9ryyzh2.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-24 22:50               ` Serge Hallyn
2013-01-24 22:59                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-24 23:13                 ` [PATCH] subordinateio: Fix subordinate_parse to have an internal static buffer Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22  9:15   ` [PATCH 05/11] Implement find_new_sub_uids find_new_sub_gids Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22  9:16   ` [PATCH 06/11] userdel: Add support for removing subordinate user and group ids Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22  9:17   ` [PATCH 07/11] useradd: Add support for subordinate user identifiers Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22  9:17   ` [PATCH 08/11] Add support for detecting busy subordinate user ids Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22  9:18   ` [PATCH 09/11] usermod: Add support for subordinate uids and gids Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22  9:19   ` [PATCH 10/11] newusers: Add support for assiging " Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22  9:20   ` [PATCH 11/11] newuidmap, newgidmap: New suid helpers for using " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87ehhdpoag.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-04 18:31       ` [PATCH 11/11] newuidmap,newgidmap: " Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20130204183129.GA27179-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-05 17:20           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-02-06  0:28           ` [PATCH 11/11] newuidmap, newgidmap: " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87sj5ai8us.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-06  3:00               ` [PATCH 11/11] newuidmap,newgidmap: " Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]       ` <87fw1tr33a.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-15  0:15         ` [PATCH 05/11] Implement find_new_sub_uids find_new_sub_gids Seth Arnold
2013-10-25 20:30       ` [PATCH 11/11] newuidmap,newgidmap: New suid helpers for using subordinate uids and gids Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20131025203025.GA2467-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-26  0:42           ` [PATCH 11/11] newuidmap, newgidmap: " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87zjpw278b.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-26  2:33               ` Serge Hallyn
2013-10-26 21:50                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                   ` <87iowjya4j.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-27 23:53                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-01-29 18:15   ` [PATCH 00/11] pkg-shadow support subordinate ids with user namespaces Rob Landley
2013-01-29 22:28     ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-30  5:35   ` Vasily Kulikov
2013-01-30  6:40     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]       ` <87vcafyy0k.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-30  7:38         ` Vasily Kulikov [this message]
2013-02-22 12:16   ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <51276189.5040803-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-22 16:34       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <87zjyw489z.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-22 17:09           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]             ` <5127A657.3010909-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-25 14:34               ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]             ` <20130225143451.GE4387@sergelap>
2013-02-25 14:38               ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                 ` <512B7773.9060704-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-25 15:15                   ` Serge Hallyn
2013-02-26  1:03                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-02-25 14:30           ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-03 15:37   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-03-07 15:23   ` Dwight Engen
2013-07-28 17:14   ` [Pkg-shadow-devel] " Christian PERRIER
     [not found]     ` <20130728171451.GX5670-FvNwPcshoeM/MCprI7ZU+I/wHUNs+SP4HZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-28 17:58       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <87r4eilg6y.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-29  0:33           ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <11218395-363e-46cd-b7a1-4488079a4986@email.android.com>
     [not found]           ` <11218395-363e-46cd-b7a1-4488079a4986-2ueSQiBKiTY7tOexoI0I+QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-06 14:54             ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]               ` <20130806145403.GA20913-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-06 22:53                 ` Nicolas François
     [not found]                   ` <20130806225332.GA14109-pDMkYksm/NDBVznEOA0nCqMXiC8k1aZu0e7PPNI6Mm0@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 15:33                     ` Serge Hallyn
2013-08-07 18:04                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                         ` <87eha5peb8.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-09 18:40                           ` Nicolas François
     [not found] ` <20130303153726.GA14737@austin.hallyn.com>
     [not found]   ` <20130303153726.GA14737-anj0Drq5vpzx6HRWoRZK3AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-04  5:56     ` Christian PERRIER
     [not found]   ` <20130304055654.GE2629@mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org>
     [not found]     ` <20130304055654.GE2629-FvNwPcshoeM/MCprI7ZU+I/wHUNs+SP4HZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-05 22:05       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found] ` <20130307102352.4a5943cd@oracle.com>
     [not found]   ` <20130307102352.4a5943cd-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-07 21:54     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]       ` <20130307215457.GB9348-anj0Drq5vpzx6HRWoRZK3AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-07 22:56         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]           ` <876212rf9b.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-08  6:50             ` [Pkg-shadow-devel] " Christian PERRIER
     [not found]               ` <20130308065019.GI5885-FvNwPcshoeM/MCprI7ZU+I/wHUNs+SP4HZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-02 13:48                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                   ` <20130602134823.GB8004-anj0Drq5vpzx6HRWoRZK3AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-02 14:04                     ` Christian PERRIER
     [not found]                       ` <20130602140436.GK9152-FvNwPcshoeM/MCprI7ZU+I/wHUNs+SP4HZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-02 14:33                         ` Serge E. Hallyn

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