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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	Serge Hallyn
	<serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Requirements for CAP_SYS_ADMIN on setns() ?
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:34:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130607093459.GB10742@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bo7j6r80.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 11:15:11AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
> 
> > Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org):
> >> Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >> 
> >> > Quoting Daniel P. Berrange (berrange-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org):
> >> >> Is it not sufficient to rely on the permissions on the /proc/$PID/ns/XXX
> >> >> file to control access to a namespace, and thus allow setns() without
> >> >> a CAP_SYS_ADMIN check ?
> 
> The permissions on /proc/$PID/ns/XXX are sufficient to control access
> but they are not ok to allow use.
> 
> >> >> ie setns() is basically useless unless you
> >> >> already have sufficient privileges to get a file descriptor for the
> >> >> namespace, so why does setns need an additional privilege check beyond
> >> >> that done at time of open() on the proc file.
> 
> To be very clear.
> 
> setns requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN because changing the namespaces for your
> children can result in tricking a suid root application and thus lead
> to privilege escalation.

Yep, ok I see that from the example shown earlier in the thread.

> If you run setns inside a user namespace that you control the privilege
> escalation is not possible and so setns is allowed.

What are the privilege requirements for being able to call setns() on
a user namespace FD ?


Thinking some more, if there was a setpidns(pid_t containerpid) syscall
which unconditionally joined the caller to all namespaces associated with
the target pid, then you'd not have the security risk described, right ?

Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-07  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-06 10:01 Requirements for CAP_SYS_ADMIN on setns() ? Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found] ` <20130606100149.GG30217-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 13:48   ` Serge Hallyn
2013-06-06 16:26     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]       ` <87txlb8atb.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 16:44         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]           ` <20130606164428.GA4687-anj0Drq5vpzx6HRWoRZK3AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 18:15             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]               ` <87bo7j6r80.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-07  9:34                 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <20130607093459.GB10742-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-07 19:18                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-06-08 19:54                     ` Rob Landley
2013-06-09  5:33                       ` Eric W. Biederman

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