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From: Aristeu Rozanski <aris-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	Kay Sievers <kay-tD+1rO4QERM@public.gmane.org>,
	Lennart Poettering
	<lennart-mdGvqq1h2p+GdvJs77BJ7Q@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [OFFLIST] status of devcg
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:50:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130710195001.GW14011@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130710184655.GB16979-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:46:55AM -0700, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Just wondering whether you're working on implementing new hierarchical
> behavior on devcg.  If so, can you please share some details on how
> you're planning to do it?  Please feel free to add the relevant
> mailing lists when replying.

I did start, but still dealing with lots of company internal tasks so I
couldn't do much.

One of the ideas is to start changing (again) how the rules are processed
internally, moving away from the default policy + exceptions model to
an ordered set of rules like iptables:

	default: allow/deny
	allow block major 100-101, all minors
	deny char major 200, all minors
	...

That will solve most complex use cases the current model won't [1] but
the problem with this approach is that since it relies on order, merging
would be a problem, and it'd have test each parent all the way to / to
make sure the access is possible.

[1] One example of usage the current model won't solve:

	- by default deny everything
	- allow c,200,*
	- but deny c,200,100

The second idea, which is simpler, will reuse the current internal model
of default policy + exceptions and the idea in the initial patches of having
two lists in each cgroup: active policy+exceptions and locally set
policy+exceptions. This way for every change that happens in a parent (or
even change of parents when moving the cgroup around), the active
policy+exceptions will be regenerated.

In both cases, we do need a new userspace interface (although we can
still provide backwards compatibility with the old one).

Comments?

-- 
Aristeu

       reply	other threads:[~2013-07-10 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20130710184655.GB16979@mtj.dyndns.org>
     [not found] ` <20130710184655.GB16979-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-10 19:50   ` Aristeu Rozanski [this message]
     [not found]     ` <20130710195001.GW14011-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-11  9:34       ` [OFFLIST] status of devcg Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found]     ` <20130711093405.GC2377@redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <20130711093405.GC2377-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-11 15:51         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <20130711155106.GB9229-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-11 16:05             ` Serge Hallyn
2013-07-11 17:10               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20130711171037.GB10195-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-11 17:11                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-07-11 19:12                   ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20130711191206.GA2149@ac100>
2013-07-11 20:38                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <20130711203833.GA3974-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-12 13:04                       ` Serge E. Hallyn

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