From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman Subject: Re: Device Namespaces Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 06:56:04 -0700 Message-ID: <20130926135604.GA16624@kroah.com> References: <20130822182118.GA28331@sergelap> <8761udlu0d.fsf@xmission.com> <871u4yddg4.fsf@xmission.com> <87bo3gshz5.fsf_-_@xmission.com> <20130926053320.GB3725@kroah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: containers-bounces-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org Errors-To: containers-bounces-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org To: Janne Karhunen Cc: Linux Containers , Kay Sievers , Andy Lutomirski , devel-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org, "Eric W. Biederman" , lxc-devel , mhw-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org, Stephane Graber List-Id: containers.vger.kernel.org On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:25:56AM +0300, Janne Karhunen wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman > wrote: > > >> In summary the situation with device hoptlug and containers sucks today, > >> and we need to do something. Running a linux desktop in a container is > >> a reasonably good example use case. > > > > No it isn't. I'd argue that this is a horrible use case, one that you > > shouldn't do. Why not just use multi-head machines like people do who > > really want to do this, relying on user separation? That's a workable > > solution that is quite common and works very well today. > > I suppose so, but now you take the assumption that there is no > need for running multiple Linux variants on the same host (say > Ubuntu and Android side by side). Is this something you would > not like to see done? You can do that today without any need for device namespaces, so why is this an issue here? greg k-h