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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Dwight Engen <dwight.engen-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker
	<fweisbec-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	Max Kellermann <mk-xMchvyqCc6DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/9] cgroups: add res_counter_write_u64() API
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 21:13:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131220211317.GA361@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1386884118-14972-1-git-send-email-dwight.engen-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Quoting Dwight Engen (dwight.engen-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org):
> Hello,
> 
> I've seen that some sort of fork/task limiter has been proposed and
> discussed several times before. Despite the existance of kmem in memcg, a
> fork limiter is still often asked for by container users. Perhaps this is
> due to current granularity in kmem (ie. stack/struct task not split out from
> other slab allocations) but I believe it is just more natural for users to
> express a limit in terms of tasks.

Sorry, I thought I had replied to this.  I'm in support of this patchset,
and think you'd be better served just sending it to lkml.

Unfortunately I will be out for most of the rest of the year, but
please cc: me here and I'll do what I can to support you.

Assuming you've run ltp with and without your patchset and saw no
change in behavior, you should mention that here as well.

> So what I've done is updated Frederic Weisbecker's task counter patchset and
> tried to address the concerns that I saw people had raised. This involved
> the following changes:
> 
> - merged into cpuacct controller, as it seems there is a desire not to add
>   new controllers, this controller is already heirarchical, and I feel
>   limiting number of tasks/forks fits best here
> - included a fork_limit similar to the one Max Kellermann posted
>   (https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/2/17/116) which is a use case not addressable
>   with memcg
> - ala memcg kmem, for performance reasons don't account unless limit is set
> - ala memcg, allow usage to roll up to root (prevents warnings on
>   uncharge), but still don't allow setting limits in root
> - changed the interface at fork()/exit(), adding
>   can_fork()/cancel_can_fork() modeled on can_attach(). cgroup_fork()
>   can now return failure to fork().
> - ran Frederics selftests, and added a couple more
> 
> I also wrote a small fork micro benchmark to see how this change affected
> performance. I did 20 runs of 100000 fork/exit/waitpid, and took the
> average. Times are in seconds, base is without the change, cpuacct1 is with
> the change but no accounting be done (ie. no limit set), and cpuacct2 is
> with the test being in a cgroup 1 level deep.
> 
> base  cpuacct1  cpuaac2
> 5.59  5.59      5.64
> 
> So I believe this change has minimal performance impact, especially when no
> limit is set.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-20 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-12 21:35 [PATCH RFC 0/9] cgroups: add res_counter_write_u64() API Dwight Engen
     [not found] ` <1386884118-14972-1-git-send-email-dwight.engen-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-12 21:35   ` [PATCH 1/9] " Dwight Engen
2013-12-12 21:35   ` [PATCH 2/9] cgroups: new resource counter inheritance API Dwight Engen
2013-12-12 21:35   ` [PATCH 3/9] cgroups: ability to stop res charge propagation on bounded ancestor Dwight Engen
2013-12-12 21:35   ` [PATCH 4/9] cgroups: add res counter common ancestor searching Dwight Engen
2013-12-12 21:35   ` [PATCH 5/9] res_counter: allow charge failure pointer to be null Dwight Engen
2013-12-12 21:35   ` [PATCH 6/9] cgroups: pull up res counter charge failure interpretation to caller Dwight Engen
2013-12-12 21:35   ` [PATCH 7/9] fix compile error in cgroup_taskset_for_each() when skip_css is NULL Dwight Engen
2013-12-12 21:35   ` [PATCH 8/9] cgroups: Add task and fork limits to cpuacct subsystem Dwight Engen
2013-12-12 21:35   ` [PATCH 9/9] selftests: Add a new task counter selftest Dwight Engen
2013-12-20 21:13   ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2013-12-23 12:54   ` [PATCH RFC 0/9] cgroups: add res_counter_write_u64() API Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found] ` <20131223125410.GA585@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]   ` <20131223125410.GA585-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-26 15:56     ` Serge E. Hallyn

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