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From: Richard Davies <richard-li8END47hbdWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Vladimir Davydov
	<vdavydov-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Marian Marinov <mm-NV7Lj0SOnH0@public.gmane.org>,
	Max Kellermann <mk-xMchvyqCc6DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Tim Hockin <thockin-Rl2oBbRerpQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker
	<fweisbec-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	Serge Hallyn
	<serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Tim Hockin <thockin-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	William Dauchy <wdauchy-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Daniel Walsh <dwalsh-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Protection against container fork bombs [WAS: Re: memcg with kmem limit doesn't recover after disk i/o causes limit to be hit]
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 19:39:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140429183928.GF29606@alpha.arachsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140429182742.GB25609-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>

Michal Hocko wrote:
> Richard Davies wrote:
> > Dwight Engen wrote:
> > > Is there a plan to separately account/limit stack pages vs kmem in
> > > general? Richard would have to verify, but I suspect kmem is not
> > > currently viable as a process limiter for him because
> > > icache/dcache/stack is all accounted together.
> >
> > Certainly I would like to be able to limit container fork-bombs without
> > limiting the amount of disk IO caching for processes in those containers.
> >
> > In my testing with of kmem limits, I needed a limit of 256MB or lower to
> > catch fork bombs early enough. I would definitely like more than 256MB of
> > disk caching.
> >
> > So if we go the "working kmem" route, I would like to be able to specify a
> > limit excluding disk cache.
>
> Page cache (which is what you mean by disk cache probably) is a
> userspace accounted memory with the memory cgroup controller. And you
> do not have to limit that one.

OK, that's helpful - thanks.

As an aside, with the normal (non-kmem) cgroup controller, is there a way
for me to exclude page cache and only limit the equivalent of the rss line
in memory.stat?

e.g. say I have a 256GB physical machine, running 200 containers, each with
1GB normal-mem limit (for running software) and 256MB kmem limit (to stop
fork-bombs).

The physical disk IO bandwidth is a shared resource between all the
containers, so ideally I would like the kernel to used the 56GB of RAM as
shared page cache however it best reduces physical IOPs, rather than having
a per-container limit.

Thanks,

Richard.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-29 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20140416154650.GA3034@alpha.arachsys.com>
     [not found] ` <20140418155939.GE4523@dhcp22.suse.cz>
     [not found]   ` <5351679F.5040908@parallels.com>
     [not found]     ` <5351679F.5040908-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-20 14:28       ` Protection against container fork bombs [WAS: Re: memcg with kmem limit doesn't recover after disk i/o causes limit to be hit] Richard Davies
     [not found]     ` <20140420142830.GC22077@alpha.arachsys.com>
     [not found]       ` <20140420142830.GC22077-2oeHp4OYwSjPZs67QiJbJtBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-20 18:35         ` Tim Hockin
2014-04-22 18:39         ` Dwight Engen
     [not found]       ` <20140422143943.20609800@oracle.com>
     [not found]         ` <20140422143943.20609800-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-22 20:05           ` Richard Davies
     [not found]         ` <20140422200531.GA19334@alpha.arachsys.com>
     [not found]           ` <20140422200531.GA19334-2oeHp4OYwSjPZs67QiJbJtBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-22 20:13             ` Tim Hockin
2014-04-23  6:07             ` Marian Marinov
2014-06-10 12:18             ` Alin Dobre
     [not found]           ` <535758A0.5000500@yuhu.biz>
     [not found]             ` <535758A0.5000500-NV7Lj0SOnH0@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-23 12:49               ` Dwight Engen
     [not found]             ` <20140423084942.560ae837@oracle.com>
     [not found]               ` <5368CA47.7030007@yuhu.biz>
     [not found]                 ` <5368CA47.7030007-NV7Lj0SOnH0@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-07 17:15                   ` Dwight Engen
     [not found]                 ` <20140507131514.43716518@oracle.com>
     [not found]                   ` <20140507131514.43716518-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-07 22:39                     ` Marian Marinov
     [not found]                       ` <536AB626.9070005-108MBtLGafw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-08 15:25                         ` Richard Davies
     [not found]               ` <20140423084942.560ae837-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-28 18:00                 ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-29  7:25                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                     ` <20140429072515.GB15058-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 13:03                       ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]                     ` <20140429130353.GA27354@ubuntumail>
2014-04-29 13:57                       ` Marian Marinov
2014-04-29 14:04                       ` Tim Hockin
2014-04-29 15:43                       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                       ` <20140429154345.GH15058@dhcp22.suse.cz>
     [not found]                         ` <20140429154345.GH15058-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 16:06                           ` Tim Hockin
     [not found]                         ` <CAO_RewYZDGLBAKit4CudTbqVk+zfDRX8kP0W6Zz90xJh7abM9Q@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                           ` <CAO_RewYZDGLBAKit4CudTbqVk+zfDRX8kP0W6Zz90xJh7abM9Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 16:51                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found]                           ` <20140429165114.GE6129@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]                             ` <20140429165114.GE6129-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 16:59                               ` Tim Hockin
     [not found]                             ` <CAO_Rewa20dneL8e3T4UPnu2Dkv28KTgFJR9_YSmRBKp-_yqewg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                               ` <20140429170639.GA25609@dhcp22.suse.cz>
     [not found]                                 ` <20140429170639.GA25609-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 17:30                                   ` Dwight Engen
     [not found]                                 ` <20140429133039.162d9dd7@oracle.com>
     [not found]                                   ` <20140429133039.162d9dd7-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 18:09                                     ` Richard Davies
     [not found]                                   ` <20140429180927.GB29606@alpha.arachsys.com>
     [not found]                                     ` <20140429180927.GB29606-2oeHp4OYwSjPZs67QiJbJtBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 18:27                                       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                     ` <20140429182742.GB25609@dhcp22.suse.cz>
     [not found]                                       ` <20140429182742.GB25609-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 18:39                                         ` Richard Davies [this message]
     [not found]                                           ` <20140429183928.GF29606-2oeHp4OYwSjPZs67QiJbJtBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 19:03                                             ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-29 21:36                                         ` Marian Marinov
     [not found]                                           ` <53601B68.60906-NV7Lj0SOnH0@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30 13:31                                             ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                               ` <CAO_Rewa20dneL8e3T4UPnu2Dkv28KTgFJR9_YSmRBKp-_yqewg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 17:06                                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-29 21:44                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found]                               ` <20140429214454.GF6129@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]                                 ` <20140429214454.GF6129-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30 13:12                                   ` Daniel J Walsh
     [not found]                                 ` <5360F6B4.9010308@redhat.com>
     [not found]                                   ` <5360F6B4.9010308-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30 13:28                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-05-06 11:40                 ` Marian Marinov
2014-06-10 14:50                 ` Marian Marinov

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