From: Richard Davies <richard-li8END47hbdWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Vladimir Davydov
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Daniel Walsh <dwalsh-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Protection against container fork bombs [WAS: Re: memcg with kmem limit doesn't recover after disk i/o causes limit to be hit]
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 19:39:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140429183928.GF29606@alpha.arachsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140429182742.GB25609-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
Michal Hocko wrote:
> Richard Davies wrote:
> > Dwight Engen wrote:
> > > Is there a plan to separately account/limit stack pages vs kmem in
> > > general? Richard would have to verify, but I suspect kmem is not
> > > currently viable as a process limiter for him because
> > > icache/dcache/stack is all accounted together.
> >
> > Certainly I would like to be able to limit container fork-bombs without
> > limiting the amount of disk IO caching for processes in those containers.
> >
> > In my testing with of kmem limits, I needed a limit of 256MB or lower to
> > catch fork bombs early enough. I would definitely like more than 256MB of
> > disk caching.
> >
> > So if we go the "working kmem" route, I would like to be able to specify a
> > limit excluding disk cache.
>
> Page cache (which is what you mean by disk cache probably) is a
> userspace accounted memory with the memory cgroup controller. And you
> do not have to limit that one.
OK, that's helpful - thanks.
As an aside, with the normal (non-kmem) cgroup controller, is there a way
for me to exclude page cache and only limit the equivalent of the rss line
in memory.stat?
e.g. say I have a 256GB physical machine, running 200 containers, each with
1GB normal-mem limit (for running software) and 256MB kmem limit (to stop
fork-bombs).
The physical disk IO bandwidth is a shared resource between all the
containers, so ideally I would like the kernel to used the 56GB of RAM as
shared page cache however it best reduces physical IOPs, rather than having
a per-container limit.
Thanks,
Richard.
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2014-04-20 14:28 ` Protection against container fork bombs [WAS: Re: memcg with kmem limit doesn't recover after disk i/o causes limit to be hit] Richard Davies
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2014-04-20 18:35 ` Tim Hockin
2014-04-22 18:39 ` Dwight Engen
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2014-04-22 20:05 ` Richard Davies
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2014-04-22 20:13 ` Tim Hockin
2014-04-23 6:07 ` Marian Marinov
2014-06-10 12:18 ` Alin Dobre
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2014-04-23 12:49 ` Dwight Engen
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2014-05-07 17:15 ` Dwight Engen
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2014-05-07 22:39 ` Marian Marinov
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2014-05-08 15:25 ` Richard Davies
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2014-04-28 18:00 ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-29 7:25 ` Michal Hocko
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2014-04-29 13:03 ` Serge Hallyn
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2014-04-29 13:57 ` Marian Marinov
2014-04-29 14:04 ` Tim Hockin
2014-04-29 15:43 ` Michal Hocko
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2014-04-29 16:06 ` Tim Hockin
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2014-04-29 16:51 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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2014-04-29 16:59 ` Tim Hockin
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2014-04-29 17:30 ` Dwight Engen
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2014-04-29 18:09 ` Richard Davies
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2014-04-29 18:27 ` Michal Hocko
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2014-04-29 18:39 ` Richard Davies [this message]
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2014-04-29 19:03 ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-29 21:36 ` Marian Marinov
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2014-04-30 13:31 ` Michal Hocko
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2014-04-29 17:06 ` Michal Hocko
2014-04-29 21:44 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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2014-04-30 13:12 ` Daniel J Walsh
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2014-04-30 13:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-05-06 11:40 ` Marian Marinov
2014-06-10 14:50 ` Marian Marinov
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