From: Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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Djalal Harouni <tixxdz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH review 07/11] vfs: Don't create inodes with a uid or gid unknown to the vfs
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 11:07:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160706090705.GE14067@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zipwxhgp.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
On Tue 05-07-16 09:55:18, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > On Sat 02-07-16 12:20:31, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >> It is expected that filesystems can not represent uids and gids from
> >> outside of their user namespace. Keep things simple by not even
> >> trying to create filesystem nodes with non-sense uids and gids.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
> >
> > So if we have sb->s_user_ns that doesn't map UID and GID 0, root cannot
> > directly create files in this filesystem. EOVERFLOW error will at least
> > hint us where the problem is but still I'm suspecting this is going to
> > create hard to debug configuration issues... I'm not sure if we can do
> > anything about this but I wanted to point it out.
>
> A reasonable point.
>
> A couple of details.
>
> - If there is no uid or gid 0 inside of a user namespace there is
> no root user in that namespace so this is a moot point.
>
> - If we are talking about uid 0 in the initial user namespace the
> scenario you are worried about can occur, but you have to work at it
> to get into that situation.
>
> To create a superblock has s_user_ns != &init_user_ns something like
> the following has to occur.
>
> setuid(1000);
> unshare(CLONE_NEWUSER);
> unshare(CLONE_NEWNS);
> mount(....);
>
> At which point the oridinary root user can not see the filesystem
> with s_user_ns != &init_user_ns as it is located in another mount
> namespace.
>
> Which means root has to use setns to get into that mount namespace,
> so there are going to be larger hints than -EOVERFLOW.
OK, I see. Thanks for explanation. The inability of the admin (UID 0 in
init_user_ns) to easily see and change any filesystem mounted in the system
makes me somewhat nervous ;). But I guess the complexity is the price for
the flexibility...
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
SUSE Labs, CR
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[not found] ` <87ziq03qnj.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 01/11] fs: Refuse uid/gid changes which don't map into s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-04 8:52 ` [PATCH review 0/11] General unprivileged mount support Jan Kara
2016-07-06 13:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-06 14:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-06 18:10 ` [PATCH review 0/12] General unprivileged mount support v2 Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <874m82bptc.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 01/12] fs: Refuse uid/gid changes which don't map into s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <20160706181212.16267-1-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 02/12] userns: Handle -1 in k[ug]id_has_mapping when !CONFIG_USER_NS Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 03/12] vfs: Verify acls are valid within superblock's s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 04/12] fs: Check for invalid i_uid in may_follow_link() Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 05/12] cred: Reject inodes with invalid ids in set_create_file_as() Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 06/12] vfs: Don't modify inodes with a uid or gid unknown to the vfs Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 07/12] vfs: Don't create " Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 08/12] quota: Ensure qids map to the filesystem Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 09/12] quota: Handle quota data stored in s_user_ns in quota_setxquota Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 10/12] dquot: For now explicitly don't support filesystems outside of init_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 11/12] evm: Translate user/group ids relative to s_user_ns when computing HMAC Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-06 18:12 ` [PATCH review 12/12] fs: Update i_[ug]id_(read|write) to translate relative to s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
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[not found] ` <20160706181212.16267-10-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-11 10:09 ` [PATCH review 10/12] dquot: For now explicitly don't support filesystems outside of init_user_ns Jan Kara
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[not found] ` <20160706181212.16267-8-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-11 10:14 ` [PATCH review 08/12] quota: Ensure qids map to the filesystem Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20160711101424.GH12410-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-11 18:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <878tx8dowu.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
[not found] ` <878tx8dowu.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-13 1:34 ` Dave Chinner
2016-07-13 3:45 ` Dave Chinner
2016-07-13 5:43 ` Jann Horn
[not found] ` <20160713054358.GB28635-J1fxOzX/cBvk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-14 17:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
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2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 02/11] userns: Handle -1 in k[ug]id_has_mapping when !CONFIG_USER_NS Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 03/11] vfs: Verify acls are valid within superblock's s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 04/11] fs: Check for invalid i_uid in may_follow_link() Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 05/11] cred: Reject inodes with invalid ids in set_create_file_as() Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 06/11] vfs: Don't modify inodes with a uid or gid unknown to the vfs Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 07/11] vfs: Don't create " Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 08/11] quota: Ensure qids map to the filesystem Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 09/11] quota: Handle quota data stored in s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 10/11] evm: Translate user/group ids relative to s_user_ns when computing HMAC Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-02 17:20 ` [PATCH review 11/11] fs: Update i_[ug]id_(read|write) to translate relative to s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
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[not found] ` <20160702172035.19568-9-ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-02 17:33 ` [PATCH v2 review 09/11] quota: Handle quota data stored in s_user_ns Eric W. Biederman
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[not found] ` <87mvm03pxy.fsf_-_-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-04 9:11 ` Jan Kara
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[not found] ` <20160704091100.GD5200-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-05 14:48 ` Seth Forshee
2016-07-05 15:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
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2016-07-05 20:57 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-07-05 21:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
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2016-07-06 6:35 ` Dave Chinner
2016-07-06 8:25 ` Jan Kara
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2016-07-06 17:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
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2016-07-04 7:59 ` [PATCH review 07/11] vfs: Don't create inodes with a uid or gid unknown to the vfs Jan Kara
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2016-07-05 14:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
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2016-07-06 9:07 ` Jan Kara [this message]
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2016-07-04 16:27 ` [PATCH review 0/11] General unprivileged mount support Eric W. Biederman
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