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From: Aleksa Sarai <asarai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
To: Enrico Weigelt <lkml-EcKl7qYKIbxeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers
	<containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	Richard Weinberger
	<richard-S6VGOU4v5edDinCvNWH78Q@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: plan9 semantics on Linux - mount namespaces
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 07:39:33 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180214203933.55yraxue7hpup65x@gordon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e924b563-44c6-d678-a6cc-1181f4b820d5-EcKl7qYKIbxeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>


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On 2018-02-14, Enrico Weigelt <lkml-EcKl7qYKIbxeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> But still I wonder whether user_ns really solves my problem, as I don't
> want to create sandboxed users, but only private namespaces just like
> on Plan9.

On Linux you need to have CAP_SYS_ADMIN (in the user_ns that owns your
current mnt_ns) in order to mount anything, and to create any namespaces
(in your current user_ns). So, in order to use the functionality of
mnt_ns (the ability to create mounts only a subset of processes can
see) as an unprivileged user, you need to use user_ns.

(Note there is an additional restriction, namely that a mnt_ns that was
set up in the non-root user_ns cannot mount any filesystems that do not
have the FS_USERNS_MOUNT option set. This is also for security, as
exposing the kernel filesystem parser to arbitrary data by unprivileged
users wasn't deemed to be a safe thing to do. The unprivileged FUSE work
that Richard linked to will likely be useful for pushing FS_USERNS_MOUNT
into more filesystems -- like 9p.)

-- 
Aleksa Sarai
Senior Software Engineer (Containers)
SUSE Linux GmbH
<https://www.cyphar.com/>

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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <0f058286-a432-379b-f559-f2fe713807ab@metux.net>
     [not found] ` <0f058286-a432-379b-f559-f2fe713807ab-EcKl7qYKIbxeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-13 22:19   ` plan9 semantics on Linux - mount namespaces Enrico Weigelt
     [not found] ` <5633d335-3926-d98f-d6d7-948b1e2a0b2c@metux.net>
     [not found]   ` <5633d335-3926-d98f-d6d7-948b1e2a0b2c-EcKl7qYKIbxeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-13 22:27     ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-02-14  0:01       ` Enrico Weigelt
     [not found]       ` <39b08c53-3449-3164-c1b1-44ac587dd4ea@metux.net>
     [not found]         ` <39b08c53-3449-3164-c1b1-44ac587dd4ea-EcKl7qYKIbxeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14  4:54           ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-02-14 10:18             ` Enrico Weigelt
     [not found]             ` <9c097fd9-3035-d5be-a829-fc18e7734f18@metux.net>
     [not found]               ` <9c097fd9-3035-d5be-a829-fc18e7734f18-EcKl7qYKIbxeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14 10:24                 ` Aleksa Sarai
     [not found]               ` <20180214102410.dxgbayb4i76h5exo@gordon>
2018-02-14 11:27                 ` Enrico Weigelt
     [not found]                   ` <24ddea73-5c84-e098-caae-8a4c14834cbd-EcKl7qYKIbxeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14 11:30                     ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                   ` <CAFLxGvzxLP_UTQbwEY99bQfyftWzZHwaOP+WrzJ8099EKtbVLg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <CAFLxGvzxLP_UTQbwEY99bQfyftWzZHwaOP+WrzJ8099EKtbVLg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14 12:38                       ` Enrico Weigelt
     [not found]                         ` <4864d279-9a3f-eaf4-c297-ea34be604e41-EcKl7qYKIbxeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14 12:53                           ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                         ` <2658681.ustYaP9yci@blindfold>
2018-02-14 14:03                           ` Enrico Weigelt
     [not found]                             ` <a2a6f189-008e-38f2-afcb-b9393d8d440a-EcKl7qYKIbxeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14 14:19                               ` Richard Weinberger
2018-02-14 15:02                                 ` Enrico Weigelt
     [not found]                                 ` <4f620eb7-c00c-487b-2e06-8cc4c97af38c@metux.net>
     [not found]                                   ` <4f620eb7-c00c-487b-2e06-8cc4c97af38c-EcKl7qYKIbxeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14 15:17                                     ` Richard Weinberger
2018-02-14 17:21                                       ` Enrico Weigelt
     [not found]                                       ` <e924b563-44c6-d678-a6cc-1181f4b820d5@metux.net>
     [not found]                                         ` <4042675.OEy7g9C5ya@blindfold>
2018-02-14 18:01                                           ` Enrico Weigelt
     [not found]                                           ` <794929ce-0ecb-4c93-d51e-e94fcf749cfa@metux.net>
     [not found]                                             ` <794929ce-0ecb-4c93-d51e-e94fcf749cfa-EcKl7qYKIbxeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14 18:12                                               ` Richard Weinberger
2018-02-14 18:32                                                 ` Enrico Weigelt
     [not found]                                         ` <e924b563-44c6-d678-a6cc-1181f4b820d5-EcKl7qYKIbxeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2018-02-14 17:50                                           ` Richard Weinberger
2018-02-14 20:39                                           ` Aleksa Sarai [this message]
2018-02-16 18:26     ` Eric W. Biederman

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