From: Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivan@redhat.com>,
Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
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Robert Sesek <rsesek@google.com>,
Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
"Michael Kerrisk \(man-pages\)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
Subject: Re: For review: seccomp_user_notif(2) manual page [v2]
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 20:04:38 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201029020438.GA25673@cisco> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez0fBE6AJfWh0in=WKkgt98y=KjAen=SQPyTYtvsUbF1yA@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 02:42:58AM +0100, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:55 AM Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
> <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
> > static bool
> > getTargetPathname(struct seccomp_notif *req, int notifyFd,
> > char *path, size_t len)
> > {
> > char procMemPath[PATH_MAX];
> >
> > snprintf(procMemPath, sizeof(procMemPath), "/proc/%d/mem", req->pid);
> >
> > int procMemFd = open(procMemPath, O_RDONLY);
> > if (procMemFd == -1)
> > errExit("\tS: open");
> >
> > /* Check that the process whose info we are accessing is still alive.
> > If the SECCOMP_IOCTL_NOTIF_ID_VALID operation (performed
> > in checkNotificationIdIsValid()) succeeds, we know that the
> > /proc/PID/mem file descriptor that we opened corresponds to the
> > process for which we received a notification. If that process
> > subsequently terminates, then read() on that file descriptor
> > will return 0 (EOF). */
> >
> > checkNotificationIdIsValid(notifyFd, req->id);
> >
> > /* Read bytes at the location containing the pathname argument
> > (i.e., the first argument) of the mkdir(2) call */
> >
> > ssize_t nread = pread(procMemFd, path, len, req->data.args[0]);
> > if (nread == -1)
> > errExit("pread");
>
> As discussed at
> <https://lore.kernel.org/r/CAG48ez0m4Y24ZBZCh+Tf4ORMm9_q4n7VOzpGjwGF7_Fe8EQH=Q@mail.gmail.com>,
> we need to re-check checkNotificationIdIsValid() after reading remote
> memory but before using the read value in any way. Otherwise, the
> syscall could in the meantime get interrupted by a signal handler, the
> signal handler could return, and then the function that performed the
> syscall could free() allocations or return (thereby freeing buffers on
> the stack).
>
> In essence, this pread() is (unavoidably) a potential use-after-free
> read; and to make that not have any security impact, we need to check
> whether UAF read occurred before using the read value. This should
> probably be called out elsewhere in the manpage, too...
>
> Now, of course, **reading** is the easy case. The difficult case is if
> we have to **write** to the remote process... because then we can't
> play games like that. If we write data to a freed pointer, we're
> screwed, that's it. (And for somewhat unrelated bonus fun, consider
> that /proc/$pid/mem is originally intended for process debugging,
> including installing breakpoints, and will therefore happily write
> over "readonly" private mappings, such as typical mappings of
> executable code.)
>
> So, uuuuh... I guess if anyone wants to actually write memory back to
> the target process, we'd better come up with some dedicated API for
> that, using an ioctl on the seccomp fd that magically freezes the
By freeze here you mean a killable wait instead of an interruptible
wait, right?
Not that I'm interested in actually doing this, just want to make sure
I understand correctly :)
Tycho
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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-26 9:55 For review: seccomp_user_notif(2) manual page [v2] Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-26 13:54 ` Tycho Andersen
2020-10-26 14:30 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-26 14:32 ` Tycho Andersen
2020-10-29 1:42 ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-29 2:04 ` Tycho Andersen [this message]
2020-10-29 4:43 ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-29 14:16 ` Tycho Andersen
2020-10-29 14:19 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-30 19:14 ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-31 8:31 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-11-02 13:49 ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-29 19:14 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-30 19:20 ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-31 8:51 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-11-02 14:13 ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-29 8:53 ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-10-29 20:37 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-30 20:27 ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-10-31 16:27 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-11-02 8:07 ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-11-02 19:45 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-11-02 19:49 ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-11-02 20:04 ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-29 15:26 ` Christian Brauner
2020-10-29 19:53 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-30 19:24 ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-30 20:07 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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