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From: Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivan@redhat.com>,
	Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	Robert Sesek <rsesek@google.com>,
	Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Michael Kerrisk \(man-pages\)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
Subject: Re: For review: seccomp_user_notif(2) manual page [v2]
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 20:04:38 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201029020438.GA25673@cisco> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez0fBE6AJfWh0in=WKkgt98y=KjAen=SQPyTYtvsUbF1yA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 02:42:58AM +0100, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:55 AM Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
> <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
> >        static bool
> >        getTargetPathname(struct seccomp_notif *req, int notifyFd,
> >                          char *path, size_t len)
> >        {
> >            char procMemPath[PATH_MAX];
> >
> >            snprintf(procMemPath, sizeof(procMemPath), "/proc/%d/mem", req->pid);
> >
> >            int procMemFd = open(procMemPath, O_RDONLY);
> >            if (procMemFd == -1)
> >                errExit("\tS: open");
> >
> >            /* Check that the process whose info we are accessing is still alive.
> >               If the SECCOMP_IOCTL_NOTIF_ID_VALID operation (performed
> >               in checkNotificationIdIsValid()) succeeds, we know that the
> >               /proc/PID/mem file descriptor that we opened corresponds to the
> >               process for which we received a notification. If that process
> >               subsequently terminates, then read() on that file descriptor
> >               will return 0 (EOF). */
> >
> >            checkNotificationIdIsValid(notifyFd, req->id);
> >
> >            /* Read bytes at the location containing the pathname argument
> >               (i.e., the first argument) of the mkdir(2) call */
> >
> >            ssize_t nread = pread(procMemFd, path, len, req->data.args[0]);
> >            if (nread == -1)
> >                errExit("pread");
> 
> As discussed at
> <https://lore.kernel.org/r/CAG48ez0m4Y24ZBZCh+Tf4ORMm9_q4n7VOzpGjwGF7_Fe8EQH=Q@mail.gmail.com>,
> we need to re-check checkNotificationIdIsValid() after reading remote
> memory but before using the read value in any way. Otherwise, the
> syscall could in the meantime get interrupted by a signal handler, the
> signal handler could return, and then the function that performed the
> syscall could free() allocations or return (thereby freeing buffers on
> the stack).
> 
> In essence, this pread() is (unavoidably) a potential use-after-free
> read; and to make that not have any security impact, we need to check
> whether UAF read occurred before using the read value. This should
> probably be called out elsewhere in the manpage, too...
> 
> Now, of course, **reading** is the easy case. The difficult case is if
> we have to **write** to the remote process... because then we can't
> play games like that. If we write data to a freed pointer, we're
> screwed, that's it. (And for somewhat unrelated bonus fun, consider
> that /proc/$pid/mem is originally intended for process debugging,
> including installing breakpoints, and will therefore happily write
> over "readonly" private mappings, such as typical mappings of
> executable code.)
> 
> So, uuuuh... I guess if anyone wants to actually write memory back to
> the target process, we'd better come up with some dedicated API for
> that, using an ioctl on the seccomp fd that magically freezes the

By freeze here you mean a killable wait instead of an interruptible
wait, right?

Not that I'm interested in actually doing this, just want to make sure
I understand correctly :)

Tycho
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-29  2:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-26  9:55 For review: seccomp_user_notif(2) manual page [v2] Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-26 13:54 ` Tycho Andersen
2020-10-26 14:30   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-26 14:32     ` Tycho Andersen
2020-10-29  1:42 ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-29  2:04   ` Tycho Andersen [this message]
2020-10-29  4:43     ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-29 14:16       ` Tycho Andersen
2020-10-29 14:19   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-30 19:14     ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-31  8:31       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-11-02 13:49         ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-29 19:14   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-30 19:20     ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-31  8:51       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-11-02 14:13         ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-29  8:53 ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-10-29 20:37   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-30 20:27     ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-10-31 16:27       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-11-02  8:07         ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-11-02 19:45           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-11-02 19:49             ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-11-02 20:04               ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-29 15:26 ` Christian Brauner
2020-10-29 19:53   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-10-30 19:24     ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-10-30 20:07       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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