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From: Balbir Singh <balbir-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
	<kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>,
	Pavel Emelianov <xemul-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org,
	menage-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	rientjes-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] allow "unlimited" limit value.
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:24:38 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46F8F6FE.7040006@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070925202954.4e477564.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>

KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:19:18 +0530
> Balbir Singh <balbir-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Kamezawa-San,
>>
> Hi,
> 
>> Your changes make sense, but not CLUI (Command Line Usage) sense.
>> 1. The problem is that when we mix strings with numbers, tools that
>>    parse/use get confused and complicated
> yes, maybe.
> 
>> 2. ULONGLONG_MAX is a real limit, there is no such thing as unlimited.
>>    If the user does ever go beyond ULONGLONG_MAX, we will limit him :-)
>>
> Oh. res_counter.c  uses LONGLONG_MAX as default value.
> need fix ? or intended ?

Pavel do you remember why LONG was chosen instead of ULONG?

> And okay there is no "unlimited" state.
> 
>> Having said that, I do wish to have a more intuitive interface for
>> users. May be a perl/python script to hide away the numbers game
>> from the users. What do you think?
>>
> I agree with you that perl/python script can hide details. but they need knowledge
> about the maximum value, which is given as default value.
> 
> In short, what I want is some value like RLIM_INFINITY in ulimit.
> 

I like the idea of RLIM_INFINITY and how ulimit as a tool shows
a value. I guess we need something like RES_COUNTER_LIMIT_MAX
and the user tool can show the limit as maximum. We could also
define a special number, RES_COUNTER_LIMIT_INFINITY, such that
containers will not enforce limits when the limit is set to
this value.

> 
> Because it seems that res_counter.c will be used for other resouce control purpose,
> I thought some generic way (value) to know/specify "the maximum value" is helpful for
> all resource controller interface.
> 
> If there is an concensus that treaing ULONGLONG_MAX as default, it's ok.
> 

When I worked on the first version of res_counters, I used 0 to indicate
unlimited. When Pavel posted his version, I think derived from
beancounters, we did not want to have unlimited containers, so he used
the maximum value

> Thanks,
> -Kame
> 

Thanks for looking into this,

-- 
	Warm Regards,
	Balbir Singh
	Linux Technology Center
	IBM, ISTL

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-25 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-25 10:39 [RFC][PATCH] allow "unlimited" limit value KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found] ` <20070925193900.1af6d871.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 10:49   ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]     ` <46F8E7AE.2090309-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 11:29       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]         ` <20070925202954.4e477564.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 11:54           ` Balbir Singh [this message]
     [not found]             ` <46F8F6FE.7040006-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 13:06               ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                 ` <46F907CE.1060807-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 13:31                   ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]                     ` <46F90DCA.5030209-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 13:34                       ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                         ` <46F90E48.6080603-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 15:05                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                             ` <20070926000510.7d956db8.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 15:14                               ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                                 ` <46F925ED.20303-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 15:30                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                                     ` <20070926003056.7df087a0.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 19:07                                       ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                                         ` <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0709251205390.19001-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 19:21                                           ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]                                             ` <46F95FD7.3010204-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 19:30                                               ` David Rientjes
2007-09-25 19:35                                               ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                                                 ` <6599ad830709251235u33dde9c8pfd56ed3d9d4fbe4b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 19:40                                                   ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                                                     ` <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0709251236040.23337-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 20:00                                                       ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                                                         ` <6599ad830709251300sea126bam5a4b6f7c6bd366e0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 20:07                                                           ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                                                             ` <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0709251304030.28350-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 20:12                                                               ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                                                                 ` <6599ad830709251312p7cdfae3byac2048fdc64ea5ca-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 20:32                                                                   ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                                                                     ` <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0709251325540.29575-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 20:40                                                                       ` Paul Menage
     [not found]                                                                         ` <6599ad830709251340t6e002dcbh6d7bcc6e6405739-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 20:58                                                                           ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                                                                             ` <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0709251346550.30668-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-26  0:06                                                                               ` Paul Menage
2007-09-26  1:23                                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                                                 ` <20070926102343.0f700503.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-26  9:45                                                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                                                     ` <46FA2A4B.4040801-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-26 10:59                                                       ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]                                                         ` <46FA3B94.3080808-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-26 11:02                                                           ` Pavel Emelyanov

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