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From: Balbir Singh <balbir-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh-DTz5qymZ9yRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6 mm] memcgroup: revert swap_state mods
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:26:04 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4737F904.8080107@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711090713300.21663-VFT1Jj/mpSzq8/QPP7pA5326JSxr+BKB@public.gmane.org>

Hugh Dickins wrote:
> If we're charging rss and we're charging cache, it seems obvious that
> we should be charging swapcache - as has been done.  But in practice
> that doesn't work out so well: both swapin readahead and swapoff leave
> the majority of pages charged to the wrong cgroup (the cgroup that
> happened to read them in, rather than the cgroup to which they belong).
> 
> (Which is why unuse_pte's GFP_KERNEL while holding pte lock never
> showed up as a problem: no allocation was ever done there, every page
> read being already charged to the cgroup which initiated the swapoff.)
> 
> It all works rather better if we leave the charging to do_swap_page and
> unuse_pte, and do nothing for swapcache itself: revert mm/swap_state.c
> to what it was before the memory-controller patches.  This also speeds
> up significantly a contained process working at its limit: because it
> no longer needs to keep waiting for swap writeback to complete.
> 

Yes, it does speed up things, but we lose control over swap cache.
It might grow very large, but having said that I am in favour of
removing the mods till someone faces a severe problem with them.
Another approach is to provide a per-container tunable as to
whether swap cache should be controlled or not and document
the side-effects of swap cache control.

> Is it unfair that swap pages become uncharged once they're unmapped,
> even though they're still clearly private to particular cgroups?  For
> a short while, yes; but PageReclaim arranges for those pages to go to
> the end of the inactive list and be reclaimed soon if necessary.
> 
> shmem/tmpfs pages are a distinct case: their charging also benefits
> from this change, but their second life on the lists as swapcache
> pages may prove more unfair - that I need to check next.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Hugh Dickins <hugh-DTz5qymZ9yRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>

Thanks for the patch

Acked-by: Balbir Singh <balbir-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>


-- 
	Warm Regards,
	Balbir Singh
	Linux Technology Center
	IBM, ISTL

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-12  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-09  7:08 [PATCH 1/6 mm] swapoff: scan ptes preemptibly Hugh Dickins
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711090700530.21638-VFT1Jj/mpSzq8/QPP7pA5326JSxr+BKB@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-09  7:10   ` [PATCH 2/6 mm] memcgroup: temporarily revert swapoff mod Hugh Dickins
2007-11-09  7:11   ` [PATCH 3/6 mm] memcgroup: fix try_to_free order Hugh Dickins
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711090710310.21663-VFT1Jj/mpSzq8/QPP7pA5326JSxr+BKB@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-12  5:05       ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-09  7:12   ` [PATCH 4/6 mm] memcgroup: reinstate swapoff mod Hugh Dickins
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711090711190.21663-VFT1Jj/mpSzq8/QPP7pA5326JSxr+BKB@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-12  5:08       ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-09  7:13   ` [PATCH 5/6 mm] memcgroup: fix zone isolation OOM Hugh Dickins
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711090712180.21663-VFT1Jj/mpSzq8/QPP7pA5326JSxr+BKB@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-09  9:27       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-12  6:42       ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-09  7:14   ` [PATCH 6/6 mm] memcgroup: revert swap_state mods Hugh Dickins
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711090713300.21663-VFT1Jj/mpSzq8/QPP7pA5326JSxr+BKB@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-09  9:21       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]         ` <20071109182156.7174e92b.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-12  4:57           ` Hugh Dickins
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711120447010.23491-VFT1Jj/mpSzq8/QPP7pA5326JSxr+BKB@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-12  5:17               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-11-12  6:56       ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2007-11-12  5:04   ` [PATCH 1/6 mm] swapoff: scan ptes preemptibly Balbir Singh

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