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From: Nadia Derbey <Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
To: Oren Laadan <orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	xemul-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Object creation with a specified id
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:21:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47DA195B.8070704@bull.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47D9B5B7.6060803-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>

Oren Laadan wrote:
> 
> 
> Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org wrote:
> 
>> A couple of weeks ago, a discussion has started after Pierre's 
>> proposal for
>> a new syscall to change an ipc id (see thread
>> http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/29/209).
>>
>>
>> Oren's suggestion was to force an object's id during its creation, rather
>> than 1. create it, 2. change its id.
>>
>> So here is an implementation of what Oren has suggested.
>>
>> 2 new files are defined under /proc/self:
>>   . next_ipcid --> next id to use for ipc object creation
>>   . next_pids --> next upid nr(s) to use for next task to be forked
>>                   (see patch #2 for more details).
> 
> 
> Generally looks good. One meta-comment, though:
> 
> I wonder why you use separate files for separate resources, 

That would be needed in a situation wheere we don't care about next, 
say, ipc id to be created but we need a predefined pid. But I must admit 
I don't see any pratical application to it.

> and why you'd
> want to write multiple identifiers in one go;

I used multiple identifiers only for the pid values: this is because 
when a new pid value is allocated for a process that belongs to nested 
namespaces, the lower level upid nr values are allocated in a single 
shot. (see alloc_pid()).

> it seems to complicate the
> code and interface with minimal gain.
> In practice, a process will only do either one or the other, so a single
> file is enough (e.g. "next_id").
> Also, writing a single value at a time followed by the syscall is enough;
> it's definitely not a performance issue to have multiple calls.
> We assume the user/caller knows what she's doing, so no need to classify
> the identifier (that is, tell the kernel it's a pid, or an ipc id) ahead
> of time. The caller simply writes a value and then calls the relevant
> syscall, or otherwise the results may not be what she expected...
> If such context is expected to be required (although I don't see any at
> the moment),  we can require that the user write "TYPE VALUE" pair to
> the "next_id" file.

That's exactly what I wanted to avoid by creating 1 file per object.
Now, it's true that in a restart context where I guess that things will 
be done synchronously, we could have a single next_id file.

> 
>>
>> When one of these files (or both of them) is filled, a structure 
>> pointed to
>> by the calling task struct is filled with these ids.
>>
>> Then, when the object is created, the id(s) present in that structure are
>> used, instead of the default ones.
>>
>> The patches are against 2.6.25-rc3-mm1, in the following order:
>>
>> [PATCH 1/4] adds the procfs facility for next ipc to be created.
>> [PATCH 2/4] adds the procfs facility for next task to be forked.
>> [PATCH 3/4] makes use of the specified id (if any) to allocate the new 
>> IPC
>>             object (changes the ipc_addid() path).
>> [PATCH 4/4] uses the specified id(s) (if any) to set the upid nr(s) 
>> for a newly
>>             allocated process (changes the alloc_pid()/alloc_pidmap() 
>> paths).
>>
>> Any comment and/or suggestions are welcome.
>>
>> Cc-ing Pavel and Sukadev, since they are the pid namespace authors.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nadia
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> -- 
> 
> 
> 


Regards,
Nadia

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-14  6:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-10 13:50 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Object creation with a specified id Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-03-10 13:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] Provide a new procfs interface to set next ipc id Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-03-10 13:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] Provide a new procfs interface to set next upid nr(s) Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-03-10 13:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] IPC: use the target ID specified in procfs Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-03-10 13:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] PID: " Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
     [not found]   ` <20080310135209.769712000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11 12:04     ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]       ` <47D67557.7080506-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11 15:28         ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]           ` <47D6A52D.6030701-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11 15:37             ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]               ` <47D6A741.9080708-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11 15:55                 ` Nadia Derbey
2008-03-11 16:47                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                   ` <20080311164725.GA12918-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11 16:55                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                       ` <47D6B990.4080400-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11 17:53                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                           ` <20080311175328.GA14171-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-12 19:58                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                               ` <m1zlt3yarj.fsf-T1Yj925okcoyDheHMi7gv2pdwda3JcWeAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-13 10:41                                 ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]                                   ` <47D904E4.4000208-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-13 17:40                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                       ` <m1r6eewmj2.fsf-T1Yj925okcoyDheHMi7gv2pdwda3JcWeAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-13 19:06                                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-13 20:01                                         ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                                           ` <47D987FE.9040909-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-13 23:12                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                               ` <m163vqw74n.fsf-T1Yj925okcoyDheHMi7gv2pdwda3JcWeAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-13 23:24                                                 ` Oren Laadan
     [not found] ` <20080310135054.312992000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-13 23:16   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Object creation with a specified id Oren Laadan
     [not found]     ` <47D9B5B7.6060803-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-14  6:21       ` Nadia Derbey [this message]
     [not found]         ` <47DA195B.8070704-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-14 15:50           ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]             ` <47DA9EB5.8040704-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-14 15:56               ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                 ` <47DAA041.9090009-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-14 16:02                   ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                     ` <47DAA1A6.6010509-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-14 16:08                       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-14 16:11                   ` Nadia Derbey
2008-03-14 16:11               ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]                 ` <47DAA3AA.4050906-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-14 16:45                   ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                     ` <47DAABAB.7000706-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-16  3:43                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                         ` <20080316034320.GA19793-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxFMas7LaWZ9n@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-16 19:08                           ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                             ` <47DD703C.4030809-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-17 14:44                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-04 14:51 Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
     [not found] <20080404145129.637145000@bull.net>
     [not found] ` <20080404145129.637145000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-15  3:06   ` Nick Andrew
     [not found] ` <20080415030623.GA8171@tull.net>
     [not found]   ` <20080415030623.GA8171-ZRFfYzONFVA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-15 10:30     ` Nadia Derbey
2008-04-18  5:46     ` Nadia Derbey
     [not found]   ` <480483C2.3030509@bull.net>
     [not found]     ` <480483C2.3030509-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-15 18:52       ` Oren Laadan

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