From: Nadia Derbey <Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
To: Oren Laadan <orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
xemul-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Object creation with a specified id
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:21:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47DA195B.8070704@bull.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47D9B5B7.6060803-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
Oren Laadan wrote:
>
>
> Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
>> A couple of weeks ago, a discussion has started after Pierre's
>> proposal for
>> a new syscall to change an ipc id (see thread
>> http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/29/209).
>>
>>
>> Oren's suggestion was to force an object's id during its creation, rather
>> than 1. create it, 2. change its id.
>>
>> So here is an implementation of what Oren has suggested.
>>
>> 2 new files are defined under /proc/self:
>> . next_ipcid --> next id to use for ipc object creation
>> . next_pids --> next upid nr(s) to use for next task to be forked
>> (see patch #2 for more details).
>
>
> Generally looks good. One meta-comment, though:
>
> I wonder why you use separate files for separate resources,
That would be needed in a situation wheere we don't care about next,
say, ipc id to be created but we need a predefined pid. But I must admit
I don't see any pratical application to it.
> and why you'd
> want to write multiple identifiers in one go;
I used multiple identifiers only for the pid values: this is because
when a new pid value is allocated for a process that belongs to nested
namespaces, the lower level upid nr values are allocated in a single
shot. (see alloc_pid()).
> it seems to complicate the
> code and interface with minimal gain.
> In practice, a process will only do either one or the other, so a single
> file is enough (e.g. "next_id").
> Also, writing a single value at a time followed by the syscall is enough;
> it's definitely not a performance issue to have multiple calls.
> We assume the user/caller knows what she's doing, so no need to classify
> the identifier (that is, tell the kernel it's a pid, or an ipc id) ahead
> of time. The caller simply writes a value and then calls the relevant
> syscall, or otherwise the results may not be what she expected...
> If such context is expected to be required (although I don't see any at
> the moment), we can require that the user write "TYPE VALUE" pair to
> the "next_id" file.
That's exactly what I wanted to avoid by creating 1 file per object.
Now, it's true that in a restart context where I guess that things will
be done synchronously, we could have a single next_id file.
>
>>
>> When one of these files (or both of them) is filled, a structure
>> pointed to
>> by the calling task struct is filled with these ids.
>>
>> Then, when the object is created, the id(s) present in that structure are
>> used, instead of the default ones.
>>
>> The patches are against 2.6.25-rc3-mm1, in the following order:
>>
>> [PATCH 1/4] adds the procfs facility for next ipc to be created.
>> [PATCH 2/4] adds the procfs facility for next task to be forked.
>> [PATCH 3/4] makes use of the specified id (if any) to allocate the new
>> IPC
>> object (changes the ipc_addid() path).
>> [PATCH 4/4] uses the specified id(s) (if any) to set the upid nr(s)
>> for a newly
>> allocated process (changes the alloc_pid()/alloc_pidmap()
>> paths).
>>
>> Any comment and/or suggestions are welcome.
>>
>> Cc-ing Pavel and Sukadev, since they are the pid namespace authors.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nadia
>>
>> --
>>
>> --
>
>
>
Regards,
Nadia
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-10 13:50 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Object creation with a specified id Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-03-10 13:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] Provide a new procfs interface to set next ipc id Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-03-10 13:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] Provide a new procfs interface to set next upid nr(s) Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-03-10 13:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] IPC: use the target ID specified in procfs Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
2008-03-10 13:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] PID: " Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
[not found] ` <20080310135209.769712000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11 12:04 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <47D67557.7080506-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11 15:28 ` Nadia Derbey
[not found] ` <47D6A52D.6030701-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11 15:37 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <47D6A741.9080708-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11 15:55 ` Nadia Derbey
2008-03-11 16:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20080311164725.GA12918-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11 16:55 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <47D6B990.4080400-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-11 17:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20080311175328.GA14171-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-12 19:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1zlt3yarj.fsf-T1Yj925okcoyDheHMi7gv2pdwda3JcWeAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-13 10:41 ` Nadia Derbey
[not found] ` <47D904E4.4000208-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-13 17:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1r6eewmj2.fsf-T1Yj925okcoyDheHMi7gv2pdwda3JcWeAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-13 19:06 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-13 20:01 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <47D987FE.9040909-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-13 23:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m163vqw74n.fsf-T1Yj925okcoyDheHMi7gv2pdwda3JcWeAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-13 23:24 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <20080310135054.312992000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-13 23:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Object creation with a specified id Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <47D9B5B7.6060803-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-14 6:21 ` Nadia Derbey [this message]
[not found] ` <47DA195B.8070704-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-14 15:50 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <47DA9EB5.8040704-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-14 15:56 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <47DAA041.9090009-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-14 16:02 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <47DAA1A6.6010509-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-14 16:08 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-03-14 16:11 ` Nadia Derbey
2008-03-14 16:11 ` Nadia Derbey
[not found] ` <47DAA3AA.4050906-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-14 16:45 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <47DAABAB.7000706-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-16 3:43 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20080316034320.GA19793-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxFMas7LaWZ9n@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-16 19:08 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <47DD703C.4030809-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-17 14:44 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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2008-04-04 14:51 Nadia.Derbey-6ktuUTfB/bM
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[not found] ` <20080404145129.637145000-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-15 3:06 ` Nick Andrew
[not found] ` <20080415030623.GA8171@tull.net>
[not found] ` <20080415030623.GA8171-ZRFfYzONFVA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-15 10:30 ` Nadia Derbey
2008-04-18 5:46 ` Nadia Derbey
[not found] ` <480483C2.3030509@bull.net>
[not found] ` <480483C2.3030509-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-15 18:52 ` Oren Laadan
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