From: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
To: YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto-jCdQPDEk3idL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: minoura-jCdQPDEk3idL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org,
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] another swap controller for cgroup
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:01:53 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <482C2631.1030600@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080515085606.7239D5A07-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
On 2008/05/15 17:56 +0900, YAMAMOTO Takashi wrote:
>>> > If so, why is this better
>>> > than charging for actual swap usage?
>>>
>>> its behaviour is more determinstic and it uses less memory.
>>> (than nishimura-san's one, which charges for actual swap usage.)
>>>
Consuming more memory cannot be helped for my controller...
>> Using less memory is good, but maybe not worth it if the result isn't so useful.
>>
>> I'd say that it's less deterministic than nishimura-san's controller -
>> with his you just need to know how much swap is in use (which you can
>> tell by observing the app on a real system) but with yours you also
>> have to know whether there are any processes sharing anon pages (but
>> not mms).
>
> deterministic in the sense that, even when two or more processes
> from different cgroups are sharing a page, both of them, rather than
> only unlucky one, are always charged.
>
I'm not sure whether this behavior itself is good or bad,
but I think it's not good idea to make memory controller,
which charges only one process for a shared page,
and swap controller behave differently.
I think it will be confusing for users. At least,
I would feel it strange.
> another related advantage is that it's possible to move charges
> quite precisely when moving a task among cgroups.
>
Moving charges is one of future todo of my controller.
But, as you say, it won't be so precise as yours.
Thanks,
Daisuke Nishimura.
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2008-03-17 2:04 [RFC][PATCH] another swap controller for cgroup YAMAMOTO Takashi
[not found] ` <20080317020407.8512E1E7995-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-17 5:11 ` Balbir Singh
2008-03-17 8:15 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <47DE2894.6010306-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-17 8:50 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
[not found] ` <20080317085003.EA4511E7A77-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-29 22:50 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
[not found] ` <20080429225047.EC4645A04-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 4:09 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <4817F108.40806-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-22 4:46 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
[not found] ` <20080522044656.2FB695A0A-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-22 4:54 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-05-05 6:11 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <20080505061142.GA13834-SINUvgVNF2CyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-07 5:50 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
[not found] ` <20080507055045.4ACBD5A0A-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-08 15:43 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <48231FB6.7000206-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-14 3:21 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
[not found] ` <20080514032125.46F7D5A07-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-14 3:27 ` Paul Menage
2008-05-14 8:44 ` Paul Menage
[not found] ` <6599ad830805140144k583f7426k4024dd17a6cd3eb8-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-15 6:23 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
[not found] ` <20080515062318.5F1BA5A07-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-15 7:19 ` Paul Menage
[not found] ` <6599ad830805150019v5ba23fe1xe5a6e8b80bc194f5-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-15 8:56 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
[not found] ` <20080515085606.7239D5A07-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-15 12:01 ` Daisuke Nishimura [this message]
[not found] ` <482C2631.1030600-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-19 4:14 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-03-24 12:10 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <47E79A26.3070401-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-24 12:22 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <47E79CF0.6040308-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-25 6:46 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-03-25 3:10 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
[not found] ` <20080325031039.549831E9292-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-25 4:35 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <47E88129.1010705-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-25 8:57 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
[not found] ` <20080325085723.698C11E936D-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-25 12:35 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <47E8F1A0.5080209-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-27 6:28 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
[not found] ` <20080327062834.DAB7E5A02-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-28 9:00 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <47ECB3B1.6040500-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-08 3:29 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-04-10 7:40 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
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