From: Balbir Singh <balbir-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro
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Cc: Rik van Riel <riel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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YAMAMOTO Takashi
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] swapcgroup(v2)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 12:15:15 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <483667FB.1030702@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080523145947.84F4.KOSAKI.MOTOHIRO-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>>> Have you seen any real world example of this?
>> At the unsophisticated end, there are lots of (Fortran) HPC applications
>> with very large static array declarations but only "use" a small fraction
>> of that. Those users know they only need a small fraction and are happy
>> to volunteer small physical memory limits that we (admins/queuing
>> systems) can apply.
>>
>> At the sophisticated end, the use of numerous large memory maps in
>> parallel HPC applications to gain visibility into other processes is
>> growing. We have processes with VSZ > 400GB just because they have
>> 4GB maps into 127 other processes. Their physical page use is of
>> the order 2GB.
>
> Ah, agreed.
> Fujitsu HPC user said similar things ago.
OK, so this use case is HPC specific. I am not against the swap controller, but
overcommit can lead to problems if not controlled - such as OOM kill. The
virtual address space limit helps applications fail gracefully rather than swap
out excessively or OOM.
I suspect there'll be applications that swing both ways.
--
Warm Regards,
Balbir Singh
Linux Technology Center
IBM, ISTL
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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-22 6:13 [PATCH 0/4] swapcgroup(v2) Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <48350F15.9070007-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-22 6:17 ` [PATCH 1/4] swapcgroup: add cgroup files Daisuke Nishimura
2008-05-22 6:18 ` [PATCH 2/4] swapcgroup: add member to swap_info_struct for cgroup Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <4835104B.4040405-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-22 7:23 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <20080522162312.a60d914b.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-22 8:46 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <483532FE.9080707-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-22 9:35 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-05-22 6:20 ` [PATCH 3/4] swapcgroup: implement charge/uncharge Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <48351095.3040009-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-22 7:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <20080522163748.74e9bd4f.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-23 11:52 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <4836AFFD.3060605-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-26 0:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <20080526095706.c90a0afb.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 13:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-05-22 6:22 ` [PATCH 4/4] swapcgroup: modify vm_swap_full for cgroup Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <48351120.6000800-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-22 6:45 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
[not found] ` <20080522064507.AB6A35A0A-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-22 12:34 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <4835686A.9000106-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-25 23:35 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-05-22 7:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-05-22 8:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
[not found] ` <20080522165322.F516.KOSAKI.MOTOHIRO-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-22 12:22 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <4835656D.4020706-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-22 12:32 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
[not found] ` <2f11576a0805220532l668ca59emd37afb60f50b703-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-23 12:26 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-05-22 7:44 ` [PATCH 0/4] swapcgroup(v2) KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <20080522164421.84849565.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-23 2:10 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <48362795.9020709-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-23 2:42 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-05-22 21:27 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <4835E55A.1000308-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-23 4:27 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <483647AB.8090104-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 7:31 ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
[not found] ` <20080527073118.0D92B5A0E-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 7:42 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <483BBB4C.3040501-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 8:30 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <483BC690.6010206-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 13:18 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <483C0A0D.50909-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 13:42 ` Daisuke Nishimura
[not found] ` <483C0FB2.7080706-YQH0OdQVrdy45+QrQBaojngSJqDPrsil@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 13:46 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <483C10C0.7040503-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 14:00 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2008-05-23 2:26 ` Rik van Riel
[not found] ` <20080522222655.166657da-Fuq27k0DHcCSkoNiqTzCLQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-23 3:10 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <20080523121027.b0eecfa0.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-23 3:32 ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-23 3:59 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <4836411B.2030601-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-23 4:30 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
[not found] ` <20080523131812.84F1.KOSAKI.MOTOHIRO-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-23 4:51 ` Balbir Singh
[not found] ` <48364D38.7000304-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-23 5:23 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-05-23 5:29 ` David Singleton
[not found] ` <4836563B.4060603-FCV4sgi5zeUQrrorzV6ljw@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-23 6:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
[not found] ` <20080523145947.84F4.KOSAKI.MOTOHIRO-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-23 6:45 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
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