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From: Cedric Le Goater <clg-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Andrey Mirkin <amirkin-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: jeremy-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org,
	arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	dave-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org,
	Andrey Mirkin <major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [Devel] Re: [RFC v3][PATCH 1/9] Create syscalls: sys_checkpoint, sys_restart
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:07:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48C54DDC.3090704@fr.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200809081902.33709.amirkin-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>

>>> --- /dev/null
>>> +++ b/checkpoint/sys.c
>>> @@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
>>> +/*
>>> + *  Generic container checkpoint-restart
>>> + *
>>> + *  Copyright (C) 2008 Oren Laadan
>>> + *
>>> + *  This file is subject to the terms and conditions of the GNU General
>>> Public + *  License.  See the file COPYING in the main directory of the
>>> Linux + *  distribution for more details.
>>> + */
>>> +
>>> +#include <linux/sched.h>
>>> +#include <linux/kernel.h>
>>> +
>>> +/**
>>> + * sys_checkpoint - checkpoint a container
>>> + * @pid: pid of the container init(1) process
>>> + * @fd: file to which dump the checkpoint image
>>> + * @flags: checkpoint operation flags
>>> + */
>>> +asmlinkage long sys_checkpoint(pid_t pid, int fd, unsigned long flags)
>>> +{
>>> +	pr_debug("sys_checkpoint not implemented yet\n");
>>> +	return -ENOSYS;
>>> +}
>>> +/**
>>> + * sys_restart - restart a container
>>> + * @crid: checkpoint image identifier
>> So can we compare your api to Andrey's?

Jumping in the API thread : how will this API interact with the namespaces ? 

I think the exact question is how are we seeing the restart sequence ?
shall we (1) restart from inside a set of pre established namespaces or 
(2) restore the state of the namespaces upon restart ? 

I think (1) is the best option in semantic, because it's closer to what
the kernel does:  create a directory (a container) and then fill it with
files (tasks). That's how the cgroup framework works and I have the
feeling we will be using this framework to build the 'super' container
object. nop ?

This direction has an impact on the API because the restart sequence 
will depend on a set of preliminary settings to create an 'empty' 
container which can then be used to exec() tasks or restart() tasks. This 
is a very different API than a magical restart() syscall creating 
hundreds of namespaces and zillions of tasks from scratch using an 
opaque binary blob. less attractive for sure but it feels more kernel 
friendly :)


But, may be you have addressed this topic at the summit and the question
is closed ?

C. 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-08 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809040354440.460@takamine.ncl.cs.columbia.edu>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809040354440.460-CXF6herHY6ykSYb+qCZC/1i27PF6R63G9nwVQlTi/Pw@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04  8:02   ` [RFC v3][PATCH 1/9] Create syscalls: sys_checkpoint, sys_restart Oren Laadan
2008-09-04  8:02   ` [RFC v3][PATCH 2/9] General infrastructure for checkpoint restart Oren Laadan
2008-09-04  8:03   ` [RFC v3][PATCH 3/9] x86 support for checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2008-09-04  8:03   ` [RFC v3][PATCH 4/9] Memory management (dump) Oren Laadan
2008-09-04  8:04   ` [RFC v3][PATCH 5/9] Memory managemnet (restore) Oren Laadan
2008-09-04  8:04   ` [RFC v3][PATCH 6/9] Checkpoint/restart: initial documentation Oren Laadan
2008-09-04  8:05   ` [RFC v3][PATCH 7/9] Infrastructure for shared objects Oren Laadan
2008-09-04  8:05   ` [RFC v3][PATCH 8/9] File descriprtors (dump) Oren Laadan
2008-09-04  8:06   ` [RFC v3][PATCH 9/9] File descriprtors (restore) Oren Laadan
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809040402170.5982@takamine.ncl.cs.columbia.edu>
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809040402170.5982-CXF6herHY6ykSYb+qCZC/1i27PF6R63G9nwVQlTi/Pw@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04  9:12     ` [RFC v3][PATCH 2/9] General infrastructure for checkpoint restart Louis Rilling
     [not found]       ` <20080904091230.GW14473-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 16:00         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-04 16:03     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]   ` <20080904160311.GC19364@us.ibm.com>
     [not found]     ` <20080904160311.GC19364-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 16:09       ` Dave Hansen
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809040401320.5982@takamine.ncl.cs.columbia.edu>
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809040401320.5982-CXF6herHY6ykSYb+qCZC/1i27PF6R63G9nwVQlTi/Pw@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04  8:37     ` [RFC v3][PATCH 1/9] Create syscalls: sys_checkpoint, sys_restart Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-04 14:42     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]   ` <20080904144223.GA19364@us.ibm.com>
     [not found]     ` <20080904144223.GA19364-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 17:32       ` Oren Laadan
2008-09-08 15:02       ` [Devel] " Andrey Mirkin
     [not found]     ` <48C01B92.60900@cs.columbia.edu>
     [not found]       ` <48C01B92.60900-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 20:37         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]       ` <20080904203730.GA28313@us.ibm.com>
     [not found]         ` <20080904203730.GA28313-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 21:05           ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]             ` <48C04D7C.6020500-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 22:03               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <200809081902.33709.amirkin@parallels.com>
     [not found]       ` <200809081902.33709.amirkin-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-08 16:07         ` Cedric Le Goater [this message]
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2008-09-04 18:08     ` [RFC v3][PATCH 5/9] Memory managemnet (restore) Dave Hansen
     [not found]   ` <1220551683.23386.32.camel@nimitz>
2008-09-07  3:09     ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]     ` <48C345D2.1020603@cs.columbia.edu>
     [not found]       ` <48C345D2.1020603-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-08 16:49         ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]       ` <1220892596.23386.166.camel@nimitz>
2008-09-09  6:01         ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]         ` <48C6113A.3080804@cs.columbia.edu>
     [not found]           ` <48C6113A.3080804-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-10 21:42             ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]           ` <1221082922.6781.62.camel@nimitz>
2008-09-10 22:00             ` Cleanups for: [PATCH " Dave Hansen
2008-09-11  7:37             ` [RFC v3][PATCH " Oren Laadan
     [not found]             ` <48C8CAC6.3090209@cs.columbia.edu>
     [not found]               ` <48C8CAC6.3090209-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-11 15:38                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-12 16:34                 ` Dave Hansen
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809040404550.5982@takamine.ncl.cs.columbia.edu>
     [not found]   ` <20080904093803.GX14473@hawkmoon.kerlabs.com>
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2008-09-04 14:23       ` [RFC v3][PATCH 7/9] Infrastructure for shared objects Oren Laadan
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809040404550.5982-CXF6herHY6ykSYb+qCZC/1i27PF6R63G9nwVQlTi/Pw@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04  9:38     ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-04 18:14     ` Dave Hansen
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809040405250.5982@takamine.ncl.cs.columbia.edu>
     [not found]   ` <20080904094740.GY14473@hawkmoon.kerlabs.com>
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2008-09-04 14:43       ` [RFC v3][PATCH 8/9] File descriprtors (dump) Oren Laadan
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809040405250.5982-CXF6herHY6ykSYb+qCZC/1i27PF6R63G9nwVQlTi/Pw@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04  9:47     ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-04 15:01     ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-04 18:41     ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-07  4:52       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]       ` <48C35DFC.9080903@cs.columbia.edu>
     [not found]         ` <48C35DFC.9080903-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-08 16:57           ` Dave Hansen
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809040403120.5982@takamine.ncl.cs.columbia.edu>
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809040403120.5982-CXF6herHY6ykSYb+qCZC/1i27PF6R63G9nwVQlTi/Pw@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 18:25     ` [RFC v3][PATCH 4/9] Memory management (dump) Dave Hansen
     [not found]   ` <1220552725.23386.46.camel@nimitz>
2008-09-07  1:54     ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]       ` <48C3343D.9000407-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-08 15:55         ` Dave Hansen

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