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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>
Cc: kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	containers@lists.osdl.org, xemul@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] memory.min_usage again
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:51:06 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48E03B92.2090402@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080929004332.13B0083F2@siro.lan>

YAMAMOTO Takashi wrote:
> hi,
> 
>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:32:15 -0700
>> Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> YAMAMOTO Takashi wrote:
>>>> hi,
>>>>
>>>>> hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> here's a patch to implement memory.min_usage,
>>>>> which controls the minimum memory usage for a cgroup.
>>>>>
>>>>> it works similarly to mlock;
>>>>> global memory reclamation doesn't reclaim memory from
>>>>> cgroups whose memory usage is below the value.
>>>>> setting it too high is a dangerous operation.
>>>>>
>>> Looking through the code I am a little worried, what if every cgroup is below
>>> minimum value and the system is under memory pressure, do we OOM, while we could
>>> have easily reclaimed?
> 
> i'm not sure what you are worring about.  can you explain a little more?
> under the configuration, OOM is an expected behaviour.
> 

Yes, but an OOM will violate the min_memory right? We promise not to reclaim,
but we can OOM. I would rather implement them as watermarks (best effort
service, rather than a guarantee). OOMing the system sounds bad, specially if
memory can be reclaimed.. No?

>>> I would prefer to see some heuristics around such a feature, mostly around the
>>> priority that do_try_to_free_pages() to determine how desperate we are for
>>> reclaiming memory.
>>>
>> Taking "priority" of memory reclaim path into account is good.
>>
>> ==
>> static unsigned long shrink_inactive_list(unsigned long max_scan,
>>                         struct zone *zone, struct scan_control *sc,
>>                         int priority, int file)
>> ==
>> How about ignore min_usage if "priority < DEF_PRIORITY - 2" ?
> 
> are you suggesting ignoring mlock etc as well in that case?
>

No.. not at all, we will get an mlock controller as well.


> YAMAMOTO Takashi
> 


-- 
	Balbir

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-29  2:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-04  4:09 [PATCH] memory.min_usage YAMAMOTO Takashi
     [not found] ` <20071204040934.44AF41D0BA3-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-04  5:58   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]     ` <20071204145831.da477f5b.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-04  7:01       ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
     [not found]         ` <20071204070122.16DDD1D0BCD-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-04  7:27           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]             ` <20071204162753.c28cc550.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-04  7:46               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                 ` <20071204164615.fc871e44.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-04  7:58                   ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
     [not found]                     ` <20071204075854.5850B1D0BFA-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-04 10:54                       ` [PATCH] memory.min_usage (seqlock for res_counter) KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                         ` <20071204195436.77fc911b.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-04 11:10                           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                             ` <475535B2.1020801-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-05  0:34                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                                 ` <20071205093455.0f46b456.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-05  9:12                                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                                     ` <47566B76.6020102-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-05  9:29                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                                         ` <20071205182927.41d140a7.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-05  9:32                                           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-12-04  6:03   ` [Devel] [PATCH] memory.min_usage Paul Menage
     [not found]     ` <6599ad830712032203t48e455cbjd25a40cf93cb453f-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-04  7:02       ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2007-12-04 13:30   ` Balbir Singh
2008-09-10  8:44   ` [PATCH][RFC] memory.min_usage again YAMAMOTO Takashi
     [not found]     ` <20080910084443.8F7D85ACE-Pcsii4f/SVk@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-10  8:53       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-09-10 15:32       ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]         ` <48C7E87F.2080706-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-12  9:46           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-09-29  0:43             ` YAMAMOTO Takashi
2008-09-29  2:21               ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2008-09-29  2:55               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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