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From: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Dmitry Mishin <dim-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers
	<containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
	igor-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [Devel] lxc userspace tools 0.3.0 released
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:28:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48F73358.80208@fr.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200810161457.45686.dim-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>

Dmitry Mishin wrote:
> On Thursday 16 October 2008 13:06:45 Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>> Dmitry Mishin wrote:
>>> Hi, Daniel!
>> Hi Dmitry ! good to see you again :)
> Thank you ! :)
> 
>>> I studied a bit lxc tools and have a couple of questions. Could you
>>> answer them?
>> Of course I can :)
>>
>>> 1)  Why did you chose such way of a container's configuration storing?
>>> IMHO, configuration in one file is better, because this file will be
>>> small and could be easily mmap'ed for the following operations instead of
>>> multiple readdir() and filesystem lookups.
>> I wanted to have the configuration easily hackable, so you can edit
>> directly the files inside the directory. For example, if you remove the
>> network directory, when you will start the container, the network will
>> not be unshared. If you have a single file, that will be more difficult
>> to edit especially if it is a binary file.
>>
>> The container tree contains more than the configuration file, for
>> example, it contains some runtime information.
>>
>> It is true having a mmapped configuration is more efficient but it is
>> just for container startup, and there are not thousand of files. The
>> application running inside the container is not impacted.
> OK, but what if I need some namespace to be shared between containers?
> How it will be handled? For example, CT 1 and CT 2 need to share network 
> namespace, but keep it separated from host one.

I think that can be solved by nested container, a container 1, unsharing 
the network, and inside create 2 containers without unsharing the network.

Example:
	in a script called myscript.sh:
		#!/bin/bash
		lxc-execute -n ctr1 echo "hello1" &
		lxc-execute -n ctr2 echo "hello2"
	
	in the shell:
	lxc-create -n mynetwork -f myconf
	lxc-execute -n mynetwork ./myscript.sh


Do you have an example, an use case for this kind of configuration ?

>>> 2) why did you chose cvs as VCS? Git is more common and convenient for
>>> distributed development...
>> The lxc userspace tool is a low level component I wrote to play with the
>> container, and especially to facilitate the kernek hacking. The lxc
>> kernel website is at lxc.sourceforge.net, so logically I put this
>> component at the same place. Unfortunately the sourceforge website does
>> not provide the services for git tree, only CVS/SVN. But I agree 100%
>> with you, I would have definitively preferred to use git.
> Worth to create it at git.openvz.org?

Yep, why not. I have to think about that.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-16 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-14 14:39 lxc userspace tools 0.3.0 released Daniel Lezcano
     [not found] ` <48F4AF2E.3000204-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-14 17:00   ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-16  8:10   ` [Devel] " Dmitry Mishin
     [not found]     ` <200810161210.48149.dim-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-16  9:06       ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]         ` <48F70425.5090606-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-16 10:57           ` Dmitry Mishin
     [not found]             ` <200810161457.45686.dim-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-16 12:28               ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <48F73358.80208-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-17  8:08                   ` Dmitry Mishin
     [not found]                     ` <200810171208.51783.dim-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-17 20:42                       ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                         ` <48F8F8BE.7080509-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20  8:42                           ` Dmitry Mishin
     [not found]                             ` <200810201242.47995.dim-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20  9:52                               ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-16  8:22   ` Alexey Eremenko
     [not found]     ` <7fac565a0810160122n7afa6e71l929be8cb08ba05c6-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-16  9:50       ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]         ` <48F70E53.9070002-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-16  9:56           ` Alexey Eremenko
     [not found]             ` <7fac565a0810160256mc3de8b5raf4bab31470b051a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-16 10:35               ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-16 12:55           ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]             ` <48F739BB.4070201-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-16 13:30               ` Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found]                 ` <20081016133006.GQ27881-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-16 14:10                   ` Daniel Lezcano

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