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From: Oren Laadan <orenl-RdfvBDnrOixBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Dan Smith <danms-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] Make sockets proper objhash objects and use checkpoint_obj() on them
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:55:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A94257C.5060702@librato.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y6p8q728.fsf-FLMGYpZoEPULwtHQx/6qkW3U47Q5hpJU@public.gmane.org>



Dan Smith wrote:
> OL> It's perhaps more accurate to s/most sockets/some sockets/. It may
> OL> be more likely for a socket to be checkpointed as a peer of
> OL> another process, or as the sender of an skb.
> 
> Um, how about "most of the time" ?  I definitely think that the
> (overwhelmingly) common case is a pair of sockets each attached to a
> file descriptor.
> 
> OL> Now that you made 'struct sock' a 1st class object, they deserve to
> OL> enjoy 1st class treatment :p  That also means proper collect() method
> OL> - probably starting with the f_op ...
> 
> Okay.
> 
> OL> I may be mistaken, but I suspect that the suggested implementation
> OL> cannot limit the depth of recursive calls to checkpoint_obj(). For
> OL> instance, consider a dgram socket that received data from another
> OL> dgram socket, that received data from another dgram, ad infinitum.
> 
> At the very least, a single receive socket is limited in how many
> skb's may be queued for it, which limits an attacker's ability to
> reach the "ad infinitum" case, I'd say.  Do we need something more?

Multiple buffers adds iteration, and one level of recursion. I had in
mind a slightly different scenario: instead of many buffers for one
socket, many sockets "chained" -

Assume N sockets S_1...S_n, all dgram, none is connected. Each socket
S_i send one packet to S_i+1.  Suppose you first checkpoint S_n, then
you'll need to checkpoint S_n-1, for which you'll need to checkpoint
S_n-2 etc.

> OL> I'm thinking about the two other use cases that I mentioned:
> OL> "dangling" (not-referenced by a file) and "pending" (not yet
> OL> accepted) sockets.
> 
> OL> In both cases (well, at least with "pending"), the 'struct sock'
> OL> exist but the 'struct socket' does not exit until after the socket
> OL> is attached to a file descriptor. IIRC, the lifespan of 'struct
> OL> socket' is coupled to that of the referencing file.
> 
> OL> In that case, I guess it make more sense to leave the 'struct
> OL> socket' related data within ckpt_hdr_file_socket.
> 
> Hmm, not by my reading.  From what I can tell, the accept operation

You are right: sock_init_data() sets it up, and I believe it is
for the entire lifetime of the sock/socket.

>>> +		return ERR_PTR(PTR_ERR(sk));
> 
> OL> Nit: I vaguely recall some disapproval of such construct...
> OL> How about '(struct file *) sk' ?
> 
> Casting it to the wrong type seems less desirable to me.  I was
> following the lead of:
> 
>   % fgrep -r 'ERR_PTR(PTR_ERR' . | wc -l
>   36

Yep. That settles it then :)

> 
> and:
> 
>   % fgrep -r 'ERR_PTR(PTR_ERR' checkpoint
>   checkpoint/namespace.c:		return ERR_PTR(PTR_ERR(h));
>   checkpoint/signal.c:		return ERR_PTR(PTR_ERR(h));

(FWIW, this was criticized ...)

Oren.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-25 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-24 17:11 [RFC] Change socket checkpoint to retain DGRAM source addresses Dan Smith
     [not found] ` <1251133918-8117-1-git-send-email-danms-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-24 17:11   ` [PATCH 1/3] Set the CHECKPOINTED flag on objects before calling checkpoint Dan Smith
     [not found]     ` <1251133918-8117-2-git-send-email-danms-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-25  5:53       ` Oren Laadan
2009-08-24 17:11   ` [PATCH 2/3] Make sockets proper objhash objects and use checkpoint_obj() on them Dan Smith
     [not found]     ` <1251133918-8117-3-git-send-email-danms-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-25  5:01       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]         ` <4A937031.10300-RdfvBDnrOixBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-25 14:52           ` Dan Smith
     [not found]             ` <87y6p8q728.fsf-FLMGYpZoEPULwtHQx/6qkW3U47Q5hpJU@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-25 17:55               ` Oren Laadan [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <4A94257C.5060702-RdfvBDnrOixBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-26  2:53                   ` Matt Helsley
2009-08-26  2:47           ` Matt Helsley
2009-08-24 17:11   ` [PATCH 3/3] Store socket owner with buffers Dan Smith
     [not found]     ` <1251133918-8117-4-git-send-email-danms-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-25  5:33       ` Oren Laadan
2009-08-26 17:31         ` Dan Smith
     [not found]           ` <87bpm2qy6q.fsf-FLMGYpZoEPULwtHQx/6qkW3U47Q5hpJU@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-26 20:34             ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]               ` <4A959C4A.6050803-RdfvBDnrOixBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-26 21:44                 ` Dan Smith
2009-08-25  0:06   ` [RFC] Change socket checkpoint to retain DGRAM source addresses Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-25  4:33   ` Oren Laadan

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