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From: Oren Laadan <orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
To: Sukadev Bhattiprolu
	<sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Luis Rilling
	<Louis.Rilling-aw0BnHfMbSpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Containers
	<containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][cr]: Fix ghost task bug
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:14:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D8D4BE9.8010605@cs.columbia.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110304172914.GE3543-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>



On 03/04/2011 12:29 PM, Louis Rilling wrote:
> On 04/03/11 11:07 -0500, Oren Laadan wrote:
>> On 03/03/2011 11:35 AM, Louis Rilling wrote:
>>> On 03/03/11 10:38 -0500, Oren Laadan wrote:
>>>> On 03/01/2011 10:31 AM, Louis Rilling wrote:
>>>>> On 28/02/11 17:10 -0500, Oren Laadan wrote:
>>>>>> So looking at the code again, we could add one condition in exit.c
>>>>>> at wait_consider_task(), after the test of p->exit_state == EXIT_DEAD,
>>>>>> to also test:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> inline static bool is_ghost_task(p)
>>>>>> {
>>>>>> 	return (p->flags & (PF_EXITING|PF_RESTARTING) ==
>>>>>> 		PF_EXITING|PF_RESTARTING) && task_detached(p)
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	if (p->flags & is_ghost_task(p))
>>>>>> 		return 0;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or something along the lines (e.g. used EXIT_ZOMBIE comparison instead
>>>>>> of PF_EXITING). While requiring a kernel patch, it is relatively short,
>>>>>> clean and easy to review.
>>>
>>> EXIT_ZOMBIE comparison would not optimize much imho, since p->flags must be
>>> checked anyway.
>>>
>>> Nit1: I don't think that checking p->flags saves anything before calling
>>> is_ghost_task().
>>
>> Hmm.. right -
>> That's a leftover from before I decided to introduce is_ghost_task()
>>
>>>
>>> Nit2: why would you like to check that PF_EXITING and PF_RESTARTING come
>>> together? Is it to make sure that no "real" restarted thread will be skipped
>>> this way?
>>
>> If wait() is called to get the state of stopped children, and for
>> whatever reason the ghost is stopped or being ptraced (we should
>> probably prevent that... but ok) - testing for the exiting/zombie 
>> condition is an extra safety measure: only skip this task when it
>> is actually exiting.
> 
> I don't see how a ghost task could be stopped or ptraced, since it calls
> do_exit() right after becoming detached, and thus identifiable as a ghost.
> Unless it gets ptraced right before calling sys_restart()? Even in that case,
> it's not reapable by ptrace since it's not in stopped state. OTOH, it may still
> be reaped in wait_task_continued() (see below).
> 
>>
>> Do you not think it's needed ?
> 
> Not sure. As far as I can see, other restarting (with PF_RESTARTING) and
> detached tasks can only be sub-threads, and are mostly not reapable in any way
> as long as PF_RESTARTING is set. They can surely be reaped neither by
> wait_task_zombie(), nor by wait_task_stopped(). The only possibility I see is by
> wait_task_continued(), because a previous "wakeup from stopped" has not been
> consumed before the checkpoint.
> 
> But, and I think that this is a good reason to check PF_EXITING (or
> ->exit_state), if threads are skipped this way, then wait() might incorrectly
> return -ECHILD instead of sleeping.
> 
> Wait. Even with this, after ->exit_signal is set to -1, and before PF_EXITING is
> set, wait_consider_task() can still consider the ghost as potentially reapable
> in the future. Deadlock again.
> 
> In fact, it's probably much saner to have something atomic, like:
> 
> 	write_lock_irq(&tasklist_lock);
> 	p->flags |= PF_EXITING;
> 	p->exit_signal = -1;
> 	__wake_up_parent(p, p->parent);
> 	write_unlock_irq(&tasklist_lock);
> 
> Unfortunately this is not accepted by do_exit(). So two kinds of solutions:
> either set a new flag à la PF_RESTART_GHOST, and only check for this flag in
> wait_consider_task(),
> or somewhere in do_exit() (latest in exit_notify()), have
> another mean to recognize ghost tasks, and do the ->exit_signal = -1 +
> __wake_up_parent() there.
> 
> What's your opinion?
> 

Doing it in wait_consider_task() may be a problem since we only mark
a task as ghost after it has lived for a while, so wait() would have
already considered it a valid child to wait for.

If I had to choose, then I'd do the snippet you suggest above - and
in particular where PF_EXITING is already set, which is exit_signals().

Adding a means to recognize ghost tasks is simple: we ran out of 
task->flags, but we can add a c/r related field to hold such a flag
(we already add one field to the task_struct).

Do you think that will do it ?

Thanks,

Oren.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-26  2:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-25  7:55 [PATCH][cr]: Fix ghost task bug Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found] ` <20110225075552.GB24361-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-25 11:55   ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]     ` <20110225115507.GD3915-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-25 19:01       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]         ` <20110225190132.GA31300-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-26 13:54           ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]             ` <20110226135431.GA3251-aw0BnHfMbSpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-28 14:43               ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                 ` <4D6BB499.7050602-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-28 15:09                   ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                     ` <20110228150942.GD18970-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-28 22:10                       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                         ` <4D6C1D58.5060400-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-01 15:31                           ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                             ` <20110301153105.GD4410-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-03 15:38                               ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                                 ` <4D6FB5D9.8010002-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-03 16:35                                   ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                                     ` <20110303163531.GO21429-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-04 16:07                                       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                                         ` <4D710E37.8000109-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-04 17:29                                           ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                                             ` <20110304172914.GE3543-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-26  2:14                                               ` Oren Laadan [this message]
     [not found]                                                 ` <4D8D4BE9.8010605-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-26 16:06                                                   ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                                                     ` <20110326160607.GA18492-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-27  3:17                                                       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                                                         ` <4D8EAC5A.2080604-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-28 15:24                                                           ` Louis Rilling

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