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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org,
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	hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	KOSAKI Motohiro
	<kosaki.motohiro-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] meminfo: show /proc/meminfo base on container's memcg
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 02:37:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FC711A5.4090003@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205302325500.25774-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>

(5/31/12 2:28 AM), David Rientjes wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2012, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>
>>> An application should always know the cgroup that its attached to and be
>>> able to read its state using the command that I gave earlier.
>>
>> No. you don't need why userland folks want namespaces. Even though you don't
>> need namespaces. It doesn't good reason to refuse another use case.
>>
>
> This is tangent to the discussion, we need to revisit why an application
> other than a daemon managing a set of memcgs would ever need to know the
> information in /proc/meminfo.  No use-case was ever presented in the
> changelog and its not clear how this is at all relevant.  So before
> changing the kernel, please describe how this actually matters in a real-
> world scenario.

Huh? Don't you know a meanings of a namespace ISOLATION? isolation mean,
isolated container shouldn't be able to access global information. If you
want to lean container/namespace concept, tasting openvz or solaris container
is a good start.

But anyway, I dislike current implementaion. So, I NAK this patch too.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-31  6:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1338260214-21919-1-git-send-email-gaofeng@cn.fujitsu.com>
     [not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205301433490.9716@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
     [not found]   ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205301433490.9716-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-30 23:20     ` [PATCH] meminfo: show /proc/meminfo base on container's memcg Kirill A. Shutemov
2012-05-31  0:08     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
     [not found]       ` <4FC6B68C.2070703-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  0:22         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]       ` <CAHGf_=pFbsy4FO_UNu6O1-KyTd6O=pkmR8=3EGuZB5Reu3Vb9w@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <CAHGf_=pFbsy4FO_UNu6O1-KyTd6O=pkmR8=3EGuZB5Reu3Vb9w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  0:33           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
     [not found]         ` <4FC6BC3E.5010807@jp.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]           ` <4FC6BC3E.5010807-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  0:44             ` David Rientjes
     [not found]           ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205301737530.25774@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
     [not found]             ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205301737530.25774-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  0:53               ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
     [not found]             ` <4FC6C111.2060108@jp.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]               ` <4FC6C111.2060108-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  1:31                 ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                   ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205301831270.25774-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  2:33                     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
     [not found]                       ` <4FC6D881.4090706-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  5:02                         ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                       ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205302156090.25774@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
     [not found]                         ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205302156090.25774-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  5:36                           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
     [not found]                         ` <4FC70355.70805@jp.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]                           ` <4FC70355.70805-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  6:17                             ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                               ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205302314190.25774-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  6:23                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]                                   ` <4FC70E5E.1010003-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  6:28                                     ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                                       ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205302325500.25774-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  6:37                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
     [not found]                                           ` <4FC711A5.4090003-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  6:56                                             ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                                               ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205302351510.25774-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  7:09                                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]                                                   ` <CAHGf_=qVDVT6VW2j9gE3bQKwizW24iivrDryiCKoxVu4m_fWKw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  7:35                                                     ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                                                   ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205310028420.8864@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
     [not found]                                                     ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205310028420.8864-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  7:42                                                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]                                                     ` <4FC720EE.3010307@gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                       ` <4FC720EE.3010307-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  7:57                                                         ` Johannes Weiner
2012-05-31  7:58                                                         ` Gao feng
     [not found]                                                       ` <4FC724B1.70508@cn.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]                                                         ` <4FC724B1.70508-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  8:32                                                           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                                                         ` <4FC72CA4.6080708@parallels.com>
     [not found]                                                           ` <4FC72CA4.6080708-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  8:51                                                             ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-05-31  8:55                                                             ` Gao feng
     [not found]                                                           ` <4FC73203.2070009@cn.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]                                                             ` <4FC73203.2070009-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  8:56                                                               ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                                                           ` <4FC73110.6010107@jp.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]                                                             ` <4FC73110.6010107-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  8:59                                                               ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-31  7:07                                             ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
     [not found]                                           ` <4FC718BA.8060608@jp.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]                                             ` <4FC718BA.8060608-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  7:23                                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-31  8:29                                 ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <20120530232004.GA15423@shutemov.name>
     [not found]     ` <20120530232004.GA15423-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-31  0:35       ` David Rientjes
     [not found] ` <1338260214-21919-1-git-send-email-gaofeng-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-29  8:24   ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 21:38   ` David Rientjes
2012-06-07 23:18   ` Zhu Yanhai
2012-05-29  2:56 Gao feng

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