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From: Gao feng <gaofeng-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Eric Paris <eparis-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-audit-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	matthltc-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org,
	sgrubb-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [Part1 PATCH 00/22] Add namespace support for audit
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:15:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51C3E182.30902@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y5a4phlm.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On 06/21/2013 06:01 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Gao feng <gaofeng-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org> writes:
> 
>> On 06/20/2013 11:02 AM, Gao feng wrote:
>>> If we don't tie audit to user namespace, there is still one problem.
>>
>> One more problem. some audit messages are generated by some net subsystem
>> such as netfilter. If we don't tie audit to user namespace, we have no
>> idea where these audit messages should go. there is no relationship between
>> net namespace and audit namespace while we can get user namespace through
>> net user namespace.
> 
> I am in favor of the user namespace tie in.
> 
> I am in favor of running a per user namespace audit filter once per user
> namespace walking up the user namespace hierarchy.  Each filter would
> deliver messages to a different userspace audit daemon.
> 

Agree, this sounds reasonable.

> Until we agreement to go that far I am not certain the kernel generated
> audit messages should go anywhere except to the global audit daemon.

There are some audit messages that we sure where they should go, we can start
from them firstly.

> 
> I think on an individual basis we can look at kernel audit messages and
> see if they should go to just the global user namespace.  Just the user
> namspace of the relevant network stack.  Or if the message should go to
> the audit daemon of every user namespace that is an ancestor of some
> starting user namespace.
> 
> But please let's error on the side of caution here.
> 
> Eric
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-21  5:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-19  1:53 [Part1 PATCH 00/22] Add namespace support for audit Gao feng
     [not found] ` <1371606834-5802-1-git-send-email-gaofeng-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 01/22] Audit: change type of audit_ever_enabled to bool Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 02/22] Audit: remove duplicate comments Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 03/22] Audit: make audit kernel side netlink sock per userns Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 04/22] netlink: Add compare function for netlink_table Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 05/22] Audit: implement audit self-defined compare function Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 06/22] Audit: make audit_skb_queue per user namespace Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 07/22] Audit: make audit_skb_hold_queue " Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 08/22] Audit: make kauditd_task " Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 09/22] Audit: make audit_nlk_portid per user namesapce Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 10/22] Audit: make audit_enabled per user namespace Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 11/22] Audit: make audit_ever_enabled " Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 12/22] Audit: make audit_initialized " Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 13/22] Audit: only allow init user namespace to change rate limit Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 14/22] Audit: only allow init user namespace to change audit_failure Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 15/22] Audit: only allow init user namespace to change backlog_limit Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 16/22] Audit: make kauditd_wait per user namespace Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 17/22] Audit: make audit_backlog_wait " Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 18/22] Audit: introduce new audit logging interface for " Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 19/22] Audit: pass proper user namespace to audit_log_common_recv_msg Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 20/22] Audit: Log audit config change in uninit user namespace Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 21/22] Audit: send reply message to the auditd in proper " Gao feng
2013-06-19  1:53   ` [PATCH 22/22] Audit: Allow GET, SET, USER MSG operations in uninit " Gao feng
2013-06-19 20:49   ` [Part1 PATCH 00/22] Add namespace support for audit Aristeu Rozanski
     [not found]     ` <20130619204927.GJ3212-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-19 20:51       ` Eric Paris
     [not found]         ` <1371675095.16587.5.camel-97fqgl+48DwtHMky1e46ABcY2uh10dtjAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-19 21:03           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87a9mlu82y.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-20  5:21               ` Gao feng
2013-06-20  3:02           ` Gao feng
     [not found]             ` <51C270AF.1080902-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-20  3:09               ` Gao feng
     [not found]                 ` <51C27266.3060909-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-20 22:01                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <87y5a4phlm.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-21  5:15                       ` Gao feng [this message]
2013-06-24 15:02                       ` Aristeu Rozanski
     [not found]                         ` <20130624150237.GA3535-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-24 19:03                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-06-20 13:02               ` Eric Paris
     [not found]             ` <1371733353.16587.19.camel@dhcp137-13.rdu.redhat.com>
     [not found]               ` <1371733353.16587.19.camel-97fqgl+48DwtHMky1e46ABcY2uh10dtjAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-20 20:45                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-06-21  3:48                 ` Gao feng
     [not found]                   ` <51C3CCFB.4030901-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-21  9:51                     ` Daniel J Walsh
     [not found]                       ` <51C42221.3030206-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-21 10:49                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-07-04  3:30                     ` Gao feng

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