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From: Li Zefan <lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: rlove-L7G0xEPcOZbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman
	<gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	Kay Sievers <kay-tD+1rO4QERM@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Lennart Poettering
	<lennart-mdGvqq1h2p+GdvJs77BJ7Q@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	eparis-FjpueFixGhCM4zKIHC2jIg@public.gmane.org,
	john-jueV0HHMeujJJrXXpGQQMAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] cgroup: implement cgroup.subtree_populated for the default hierarchy
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:20:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <534E04F1.4070104@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tx9uhr0j.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>

On 2014/4/16 11:50, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Kay Sievers <kay-tD+1rO4QERM@public.gmane.org> writes:
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Li Zefan <lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> On 2014/4/15 5:44, Tejun Heo wrote:
>>>> cgroup users often need a way to determine when a cgroup's
>>>> subhierarchy becomes empty so that it can be cleaned up.  cgroup
>>>> currently provides release_agent for it; unfortunately, this mechanism
>>>> is riddled with issues.
>>>>
>>>> * It delivers events by forking and execing a userland binary
>>>>   specified as the release_agent.  This is a long deprecated method of
>>>>   notification delivery.  It's extremely heavy, slow and cumbersome to
>>>>   integrate with larger infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> * There is single monitoring point at the root.  There's no way to
>>>>   delegate management of subtree.
>>>>
>>>> * The event isn't recursive.  It triggers when a cgroup doesn't have
>>>>   any tasks or child cgroups.  Events for internal nodes trigger only
>>>>   after all children are removed.  This again makes it impossible to
>>>>   delegate management of subtree.
>>>>
>>>> * Events are filtered from the kernel side.  "notify_on_release" file
>>>>   is used to subscribe to or suppress release event.  This is
>>>>   unnecessarily complicated and probably done this way because event
>>>>   delivery itself was expensive.
>>>>
>>>> This patch implements interface file "cgroup.subtree_populated" which
>>>> can be used to monitor whether the cgroup's subhierarchy has tasks in
>>>> it or not.  Its value is 0 if there is no task in the cgroup and its
>>>> descendants; otherwise, 1, and kernfs_notify() notificaiton is
>>>> triggers when the value changes, which can be monitored through poll
>>>> and [di]notify.
>>>>
>>>
>>> For the old notification mechanism, the path of the cgroup that becomes
>>> empty will be passed to the user specified release agent. Like this:
>>>
>>> # cat /sbin/cpuset_release_agent
>>> #!/bin/sh
>>> rmdir /dev/cpuset/$1
>>>
>>> How do we achieve this using inotify?
>>>
>>> - monitor all the cgroups, or
>>> - monitor all the leaf cgroups, and travel cgrp->parent to delete all
>>>   empty cgroups.
>>> - monitor root cgroup only, and travel the whole hierarchy to find
>>>   empy cgroups when it gets an fs event.
>>>
>>> Seems none of them is scalible.
>>
>> The manager would add all cgroups as watches to one inotify file
>> descriptor, it should not be problem to do that.
> 
> inotify won't work on cgroupfs.
> 

Tejun's working on inotify support for cgroupfs, and I believe this patchset
has been tested, so it works.

So what do you mean by saying it won't work? Could you be more specific?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-16  4:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-14 21:44 [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: implement cgroup.populated, v2 Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <1397511846-2904-1-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-14 21:44   ` [PATCH 1/3] kernfs: implement kernfs_root->supers list Tejun Heo
2014-04-14 21:44   ` [PATCH 2/3] kernfs: make kernfs_notify() trigger inotify events too Tejun Heo
2014-04-14 21:44   ` [PATCH 3/3] cgroup: implement cgroup.subtree_populated for the default hierarchy Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1397511846-2904-4-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-15  0:57       ` Li Zefan
     [not found]         ` <534C83F1.9020106-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-15 14:54           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20140415145450.GL1863@htj.dyndns.org>
     [not found]           ` <20140415145450.GL1863-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-15 16:52             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <20140415165221.GD30990-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16  1:30                 ` Li Zefan
2014-04-16  2:48       ` Li Zefan
     [not found]         ` <534DEF62.4090900-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16  3:33           ` Kay Sievers
     [not found]             ` <CAPXgP12kvPdX0QExwN2JphDfEW=d+7K2c_Y8DbomGd=YVy=VGQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16  3:50               ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-16  4:16               ` Li Zefan
     [not found]             ` <87tx9uhr0j.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
     [not found]               ` <87tx9uhr0j.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16  4:15                 ` Kay Sievers
2014-04-16  4:20                 ` Li Zefan [this message]
2014-04-16 14:50       ` [PATCH v3 3/3] cgroup: implement cgroup.populated " Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <20140416145047.GC1257@htj.dyndns.org>
     [not found]       ` <20140416145047.GC1257-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17  1:23         ` Li Zefan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-04-09 15:07 [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: implement cgroup.populated Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <1397056052-2829-1-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-09 15:07   ` [PATCH 3/3] cgroup: implement cgroup.subtree_populated for the default hierarchy Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1397056052-2829-4-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-10  3:08       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20140410030855.GA29658@mail.hallyn.com>
     [not found]       ` <20140410030855.GA29658-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-10 13:08         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <20140410130831.GA25308-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-10 14:04             ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-10 14:19               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20140410141957.GE25308-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-11  9:00                   ` Li Zefan

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