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From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Vasily Kulikov <segoon-cxoSlKxDwOJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Richard Weinberger
	<richard.weinberger-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	Serge Hallyn
	<serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman"
	<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Al Viro <viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] /proc/pid/status: show all sets of pid according to ns
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 13:07:54 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5386F8EA.8050501@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140529055954.GA10354@cachalot>

On 05/29/2014 09:59 AM, Vasily Kulikov wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 23:27 +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>> On 05/28/2014 10:28 PM, Vasily Kulikov wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 16:44 +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>>> It will be simplier
>>> to parse the file -- if 'ns_ids' file contains some ID then this ID for
>>> every ns can be obtained regardless of the specific ID name (SID, PID,
>>> PGID, etc.).
>>
>> True, but given a task PID how to determine which pid namespaces it lives in
>> to get the idea of how PIDs map to each other? Maybe we need some explicit
>> API for converting (ID, NS1, NS2) into (ID)?
> 
> AFAIU the idea of the patch is to add a new debugging information which
> can be trivially obtained via 'cat /proc/...':

I agree, but this ability will be very useful by checkpoint-restore project
too and I'd really appreciate if the API we have for that would be scalable
enough. Per-task proc file works for me, but how about sid-s and pgid-s?

> ] We need a direct method of getting the pid inside containers.
> ] If some issues occurred inside container guest, host user
> ] could not know which process is in trouble just by guest pid:
> ] the users of container guest only knew the pid inside containers.
> ] This will bring obstacle for trouble shooting.
> 
> A new syscall might complicate trouble shooting by admin.

Pure syscall -- yes. What if we teach the ps and top utilities to show additional
info? I think that would help.

Thanks,
Pavel

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-29  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-28 10:24 [PATCH v2] /proc/pid/status: show all sets of pid according to ns Chen Hanxiao
     [not found] ` <1401272683-1659-1-git-send-email-chenhanxiao-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-28 12:44   ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <5385DA19.2060008-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-28 18:28       ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-28 19:27         ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]         ` <53863889.9080509@parallels.com>
     [not found]           ` <53863889.9080509-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-29  5:59             ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-29  9:07               ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <5386FC0C.9000307@nod.at>
     [not found]                   ` <5386FC0C.9000307-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-29  9:41                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                       ` <538700B5.5070601-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-29  9:54                         ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                           ` <538703D0.7030308-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-29 10:02                             ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                               ` <5387059E.9010105-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-29 10:19                                 ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                                   ` <538709A5.60000-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-29 10:36                                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                 ` <5871495633F38949900D2BF2DC04883E52A481@G08CNEXMBPEKD02.g08.fujitsu.local>
     [not found]                   ` <5871495633F38949900D2BF2DC04883E52A481-ZEd+hNNJ6a5ZYpXjqAkB5jz3u5zwRJJDAzI0kPv9QBlmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-29 10:40                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                 ` <5386F8EA.8050501-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-29  9:21                   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-05-29  9:53                   ` chenhanxiao-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A
2014-05-29 11:12                   ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-29 11:31                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                       ` <53871A92.9000004-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-29 11:59                         ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-29 12:53                           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                             ` <53872DAD.1070502-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-31  6:07                               ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-31 20:08                                 ` Eric W. Biederman

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