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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman"
	<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Torvalds
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Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] namespace updates for v3.17-rc1
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:46:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53EAD180.4010906@amacapital.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fvhav3ic.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>

On 08/05/2014 05:57 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> 
> Linus,
> 
> Please pull the for-linus branch from the git tree:
> 
>    git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ebiederm/user-namespace.git for-linus
> 
>    HEAD: 344470cac42e887e68cfb5bdfa6171baf27f1eb5 proc: Point /proc/mounts at /proc/thread-self/mounts instead of /proc/self/mounts
> 
> This is a bunch of small changes built against 3.16-rc6.  The most
> significant change for users is the first patch which makes setns
> drmatically faster by removing unneded rcu handling.
> 
> The next chunk of changes are so that "mount -o remount,.." will not
> allow the user namespace root to drop flags on a mount set by the system
> wide root.  Aks this forces read-only mounts to stay read-only, no-dev
> mounts to stay no-dev, no-suid mounts to stay no-suid, no-exec mounts to
> stay no exec and it prevents unprivileged users from messing with a
> mounts atime settings.  I have included my test case as the last patch
> in this series so people performing backports can verify this change
> works correctly.
> 

Sorry for catching this late.  I think this fix is likely to
unnecessarily break valid userspace due to an odd interaction.

do_new_mount contains this:

	if (user_ns != &init_user_ns) {
		if (!(type->fs_flags & FS_USERNS_MOUNT)) {
			put_filesystem(type);
			return -EPERM;
		}
		/* Only in special cases allow devices from mounts
		 * created outside the initial user namespace.
		 */
		if (!(type->fs_flags & FS_USERNS_DEV_MOUNT)) {
			flags |= MS_NODEV;
			mnt_flags |= MNT_NODEV | MNT_LOCK_NODEV;
		}
	}

This means that private tmpfs mounts end up with MNT_NODEV |
MNT_LOCK_NODEV.  Certainly the change from MNT_NODEV to MNT_LOCK_NODEV
is sensible *if MNT_NODEV made sense in the first place*.  But we didn't
have MNT_LOCK_NODEV in the past, so this well-intentioned code never
really worked.

This has a very strange effect: mounting a private tmpfs with all
default flags and then remounting with MS_REMOUNT | MS_BIND *without
MS_NODEV* will now fail.  I suspect that this practice is rather common,
since most likely no one ever paid attention to that implicit MNT_NODEV
before.

I would argue that the correct fix is to either remove the implicit
MNT_NODEV entirely or to set FS_USERNS_DEV_MOUNT on most filesystems.

The relevant filesystems are tmpfs, mqueue, sysfs, proc, ramfs, and
devpts.  devpts already sets FS_USERNS_DEV_MOUNT.  Setting
FS_USERNS_DEV_MOUNT should be safe on all of the others in this list --
I think that the only one that initially contains device nodes is sysfs
on selinux systems, which contains a null node.

I think the point of this is to prevent mounts of filesystems with
user-controlled initial contents from being dangerous.  But we don't
have any of those yet.

--Andy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-13  2:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-06  0:57 [GIT PULL] namespace updates for v3.17-rc1 Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] ` <87fvhav3ic.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-06  4:46   ` Stephen Rothwell
     [not found]     ` <20140806144643.45e5dab8-3FnU+UHB4dNDw9hX6IcOSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-06  5:16       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <87lhr2tcyx.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-06  6:06           ` Stephen Rothwell
     [not found]             ` <20140806160608.218b6944-3FnU+UHB4dNDw9hX6IcOSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-06  6:30               ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-08-07 13:28               ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-08-13  2:46   ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
     [not found]     ` <53EAD180.4010906-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-13  4:17       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <87sil1nhut.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-13  4:38           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-08-13  4:45           ` Kenton Varda
     [not found]             ` <CAOP=4widH1rMZ1O=hzAT+M_8exdzRPA8pJ+wH29AQ9L0ogu9nw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-13 10:24               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                 ` <87tx5ghekp.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-13 17:03                   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                     ` <CALCETrWT_p1-5nkiAjWoeta19fkO3rDiJe9_mhRVqF8x1zXv2A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-14  0:03                       ` [PATCH] fs: Remove implicit nodev for new mounts in non-root userns Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                     ` <2686c32f00b14148379e8cfee9c028c794d4aa1a.1407974494.git.luto@amacapital.net>
     [not found]                       ` <20140815190552.GA11476@ubuntumail>
2014-08-15 19:16                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                           ` <CALCETrVKq1Fxnsd9jKDi5_fcKfCJxBZ1w-zGXD3FR-pF-jLsmQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-15 19:37                             ` Serge Hallyn
2014-08-15 19:56                               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                 ` <CALCETrWB0qBiyfJbapFnjxoNyNvS+aHvgc_eob3fC1j=cv+v5w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-15 20:16                                   ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]                       ` <2686c32f00b14148379e8cfee9c028c794d4aa1a.1407974494.git.luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-15 19:05                         ` Serge Hallyn
2014-08-15 20:16                         ` Serge Hallyn
2014-08-28  1:35                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-08-15 18:41                   ` [GIT PULL] namespace updates for v3.17-rc1 Andy Lutomirski
2014-08-20 15:06   ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]     ` <CAFLxGvwi-iJRyfwv8v9fcRkiSu2d-az8W55xMPbp_d8wQKmwjg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21  4:53       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <87vbpm4f4y.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21  6:29           ` Richard Weinberger
2014-08-21 13:12           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20140821131257.GA4264-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 13:22               ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                 ` <53F5F2AD.5010607-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 14:09                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <87k362vsr5.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-03 21:18                       ` Richard Weinberger
2014-11-25 23:15                       ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                         ` <CAFLxGvzyhHC+QF-bFfp-yNBpCkS3JJ+RAr+5iCj0k_su9wJbGw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-29 16:58                           ` Richard Weinberger
2014-08-21 13:43               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <53F591E7.3010509@nod.at>
     [not found]           ` <53F591E7.3010509-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21  7:24             ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]               ` <53F59EC7.6060107-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-21 13:54                 ` Eric W. Biederman

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