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From: Richard Weinberger <richard-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
To: Lennart Poettering <lennart-mdGvqq1h2p+GdvJs77BJ7Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers
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Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] How to use cgroups within containers?
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 19:33:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5445476C.3020603@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141020172734.GA4462@gardel-login>

Am 20.10.2014 um 19:27 schrieb Lennart Poettering:
> On Mon, 20.10.14 19:16, Richard Weinberger (richard-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org) wrote:
> 
>>> Have you read the link I posted?
>>
>> Sure, I've also been in the room in Düsseldorf while you've read it
>> in front of us.
> 
> Not that I changed it since then... ;-)
> 
>>> Yes, I test systemd inside containers. Daily. Actually it's my primary
>>> way of testing systemd, since it is extremely quick and allows me to
>>> attach from the host with debugging tools...
>>>
>>> As long as you follow the suggestions in the document I linked systemd
>>> will work without modifications in container managers. At least
>>> libvirt-lxc and nspawn follows these suggestions, not sure about the
>>> other container managers.
>>
>> If I read the source of nspwan correctly, it does not use user
>> namespaces.
> 
> Ah, this is about user namespaces? No I have not played around with
> them so far. Sorry.

Yep. Please have a look at them. There are some pitfalls.

>> libvirt-lxc is currently not sure how to support systemd. So far it
>> bind mounts only the machine specific part of cgroups into the container.
>> Which is not really nice but better than exposing the whole hierarchy into
>> the container.
> 
> It really should also bind mount the upper parts, but possibly mark
> them read-only (which nspawn currently doesn't do).

Okay. Or maybe cgroup namespaces will help.
Let's find out. :)

Thanks,
//richard

      reply	other threads:[~2014-10-20 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-17 21:35 How to use cgroups within containers? Richard Weinberger
     [not found] ` <CAFLxGvxKP2wkGOqW=mz7Sv=+yJXiY-1Hz-4kKfR8mYVEWPOj6Q@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <CAFLxGvxKP2wkGOqW=mz7Sv=+yJXiY-1Hz-4kKfR8mYVEWPOj6Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-17 21:52     ` [systemd-devel] " Cameron Norman
2014-10-18  3:50     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found] ` <CAFLxGvxzmfhLZPsmsFG9qdB0oDf9ayvNaWNNOXqcAkW3yATffg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-17 21:37   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-10-20 16:24   ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
     [not found] ` <20141020162445.GA4008@gardel-login>
2014-10-20 16:49   ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]   ` <54453D06.9020101@nod.at>
     [not found]     ` <54453D06.9020101-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-20 16:51       ` Lennart Poettering
2014-10-20 16:55         ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]           ` <54453E6F.6000202-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-20 17:04             ` Lennart Poettering
     [not found]           ` <20141020170442.GA4271@gardel-login>
2014-10-20 17:16             ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]               ` <54454355.90605-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-20 17:27                 ` Lennart Poettering
2014-10-20 17:33                   ` Richard Weinberger [this message]

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