From: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Lukasz Pawelczyk <l.pawelczyk-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC] lsm: namespace hooks
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 10:44:39 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871tooy4nc.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1417104439.1805.25.camel-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> (Lukasz Pawelczyk's message of "Thu, 27 Nov 2014 17:07:19 +0100")
Lukasz Pawelczyk <l.pawelczyk-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
> On czw, 2014-11-27 at 09:42 -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Lukasz Pawelczyk <l.pawelczyk-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>> > On czw, 2014-11-27 at 16:01 +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> >> Am 27.11.2014 um 15:44 schrieb Lukasz Pawelczyk:
>> >> > True, the last one is 0x80000000. I did not notice that. Thanks for
>> >> > pointing out.
>> >>
>> >> Isn't this CLONE_IO?
>> >
>> > Yes, I was merely noticing out loud that it's the last bit of 32bit.
>> >
>> > After close look though the 0x00001000 appears to be unused
>> >
>> >> > Any suggestion on what can be done here? New syscal with flags2?
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure. But a new syscall would be a candidate.
>>
>> We are probably going to need to go a couple rounds with this but at
>> first approximation I think this functionality needs to be tied to the
>> user namespace. This functionality already looks half tied to it.
>>
>> When mounting filesystems with user namespaces priveleges matures a
>> little more you should be able to use unmapped labels. In the near term
>> we are looking at filesystems such as tmpfs, fuse and posibly extN.
>
> I presume you are referring to the Smack namespace readme where I
> mentioned mounts with specifying smack labels in the mount options, not
> to the quote above?
>
> I was referring the to the check here that has been changed to
> smack_ns_privileged() using ns_capable():
> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/security/smack/smack_lsm.c#L462
>
> And you can't use an unmapped Smack label inside the namespace, this
> would be completely against its idea.
>
> Anyway, at this point I'm more interested in the LSM namespace. I'll be
> doing an RFC for Smack namespace later.
>
> Unless I misunderstood your mail.
I had two points.
a) Tie the label mapping to the user namespace, then we don't need any
new namespaces.
Is there a reason not to tie the label mapping to the user namespace?
Needing to modify every userspace that create containers to know
about every different lsm looks like a maintenance difficulty I would
prefer to avoid.
b) For filesystems that don't need uid mapping (say ext2 mounted with
user namespace permissions) we shouldn't need LSM mapping either.
Eric
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2014-11-27 14:01 ` [RFC] lsm: namespace hooks Lukasz Pawelczyk
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2014-11-27 14:18 ` Richard Weinberger
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2014-11-27 14:35 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
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2014-11-27 14:38 ` Richard Weinberger
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2014-11-27 14:44 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
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2014-11-27 15:01 ` Richard Weinberger
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2014-11-27 15:11 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
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2014-11-27 15:17 ` Richard Weinberger
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2014-11-27 15:24 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2014-11-27 15:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
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2014-11-27 16:07 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
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2014-11-27 16:44 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
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2014-11-27 17:38 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
[not found] ` <1417109911.1805.27.camel-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 12:43 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
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2014-12-09 16:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
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