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From: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Al Viro <viro-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [REVIEW][PATCH 1/4] vfs: Don't allow overwriting mounts in the current mount namespace
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 12:51:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bo1u8vmf.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131103035406.GA8537-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org> (Al Viro's message of "Sun, 3 Nov 2013 03:54:06 +0000")

Al Viro <viro-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org> writes:

> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 01:16:48PM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
>>  int vfs_rmdir(struct inode *dir, struct dentry *dentry)
>>  {
>>  	int error = may_delete(dir, dentry, 1);
>> @@ -3622,6 +3636,9 @@ retry:
>>  		error = -ENOENT;
>>  		goto exit3;
>>  	}
>> +	error = -EBUSY;
>> +	if (covered(nd.path.mnt, dentry))
>> +		goto exit3;
>
> Ugh...  And it's not racy because of...?  IOW, what's to keep the return
> value of covered() from getting obsolete just as it's being calculated,
> let alone returned?

The return value of d_mountpoint can be obsolete as soon as it returns
as well, so I don't see this as being significantly different.

I would like to say that any changes introduced here do not matter
because all of this is just to keep a semblance of the old semantics.
Unfortunately for me part of keeping that semblance is as much as is
reasonable preserving the existing race guarantees.

In 3.12 we create a mount with:
- The dentry->d_inode mutex held.
- The namespace_sem held.

In 3.12 we remove a mount with just the namespace_sem held.

I call covered in: do_rmdir, do_unlinkat, and renameat.

In 3.12 vfs_rmdir checks d_mountpoint with the
dentry->d_inode->i_mutex and
dentry->d_parent->d_inode->i_mutex held.

In 3.12 vfs_unlink checks d_mountpoint with the
dentry->d_inode->i_mutex and
dentry->d_parent->d_inode->i_mutex hel.d

In 3.12 vfs_rename_dir and vfs_rename_other checks d_mountpint with the
target->i_mutex, new_dir->i_mutex, and old_dir->i_mutex held.


Therefore the guarantees in 3.12 are:
- unlink versus mount races are prevented by the
  dentry->d_inode->i_mutex of the dentry being removed.
- unlink versus umount races are uninteresting.
- mount versus rename races in testing of d_mountpoint are ignored.
- umount versus rename races in testing of d_mountpoint are ignored.

So comparing this to how I have implemented covered the test is at a
slightly different location in the call path so there may be a slightly
larger race in rename.

For unlink there is a race where the mount could happen after testing
covered.  Then the unlink happens.  Then we remove the mount with
detach_mounts.


In the context of the symlink attacks against umounting of fuse I don't
see a difference.

In the only case where there is a new race (unlink versus mount) I see
a narrow window where new behavior will happen the unlink will win and
we unmount the filesystem.  So there is a vary narrow window in which
we might have a stale entry in /etc/mtab.

So after all of that analysis I don't think we care.  If we do care with
a little more work we can pass the mountpoint down and test covered with
dentry->d_inode->i_mutex held, where we test d_mountpoint in 3.12 today.

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-08 20:51 UTC|newest]

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2013-10-15 20:15                                   ` [REVIEW][PATCH 0/4] vfs: Detach mounts on unlink Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                     ` <87iowyxpci.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15 20:16                                       ` [REVIEW][PATCH 1/4] vfs: Don't allow overwriting mounts in the current mount namespace Eric W. Biederman
2013-10-15 20:17                                       ` [REVIEW][PATCH 2/4] vfs: Keep a list of mounts on a mount point Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                         ` <877gdexp9s.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-22 19:06                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-10-15 20:17                                       ` [REVIEW][PATCH 3/4] vfs: Add a function to lazily unmount all mounts from any dentry. v3 Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                         ` <871u3mxp8s.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-22 19:08                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-10-15 20:18                                       ` [REVIEW][PATCH 4/4] vfs: Lazily remove mounts on unlinked files and directories. v2 Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                         ` <87vc0ywan7.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-22 19:13                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                     ` <87d2n6xpan.fsf_-_@xmission.com>
     [not found]                                       ` <87d2n6xpan.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-22 19:04                                         ` [REVIEW][PATCH 1/4] vfs: Don't allow overwriting mounts in the current mount namespace Serge E. Hallyn
2013-11-03  3:54                                         ` Al Viro
     [not found]                                       ` <20131103035406.GA8537@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]                                         ` <20131103035406.GA8537-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-08 20:51                                           ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
     [not found]                                             ` <87bo1u8vmf.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-08 21:35                                               ` Al Viro
     [not found]                                             ` <20131108213551.GR13318@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]                                               ` <20131108213551.GR13318-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-08 22:17                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                   ` <87fvr61qtg.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-09  8:49                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                                       ` <20131109084916.GA21413-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 20:58                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-11-21 20:49                                           ` Eric W. Biederman

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